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"Trusted" eMail Providers? (lemmy.zip)

submitted 1 week ago by nefarioushoneybee@lemmy.zip to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml

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I switched from Gmail to Proton, but now with everything coming out about Proton I'm switching from them too. I started using Posteo which I like but a lot of my accounts having to do with money and finance (including my bank) aren't accepting the Posteo email. They have rejected it over and over and even locked me out stating that I was hacked.

Do you guys have any recommendations for email providers to use that also won't send red flags to my more official accounts?

If it helps, I'm US-based.

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[–] JCSpark@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've been using Fastmail for a while now, and I like it. Clean interface, good apps, and lots of support for CALDAV (including tasks!). Frankly a much better interface than many other providers. I was also tired of using Thunderbird with my hosting provider's email.

I spent quite a while looking for a good email provider as well. Proton didn't work for similar reasons, and I didn't like having to use the bridge on Linux. I settled on Fastmail as it's cheap, and does what I need (email, calendar, tasks).

I wasn't excited that they have servers in the US (they're an Australian company), but I had to make a compromise to degoogle. "Perfection is the enemy of progress" is a common phrase for me.

I'm interested to see what other opinions come up though.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I use Fastmail too because I used to work there, but I happen to know firsthand that internally they're strongly in favor of mass surveillance. That said, they can't read shit if you use PGP.

[–] JCSpark@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interesting. I had read something similar. Thing is, unless you host your own or give up conveniences, email will always be a means of surveillance. I try to do everything I can to keep my digital footprint small, but I also value my time. Going down a rabbit hole and hosting my own service, or never being satisfied with an email provider seemed like a waste of my time. I'll do the best I can, and focus on what I can control.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah it's a necessary evil, unfortunately. One of the biggest lessons I learned working there is not to bother hosting your own email, because now it all goes through several dozen intermediary spam filters whether you want it to or not, and if even one of those gets tripped up, you're not sending or receiving.

[–] nefarioushoneybee@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thank you for the suggestion! I'll definitely look into this