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China has brought millions out of poverty. The US has not – by choice (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is not to congratulate China for its authoritarian government, for its repression of minorities or for the iron fist it deploys against any form of dissent. But it merits pondering how this undemocratic government could successfully slash its poverty rate when the richest and oldest democracy in the world wouldn’t.

You where so close to an actually based article. What the fuck is this.

Perhaps the "undemocratic authoritarian" country that slashed povert did it through democracy.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

convincing people in the west that procedural liberal implementation of democracy is synonymous with the concept itself has been one of the most successful propaganda campaigns in history

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're so propagandized, they take it as a given, or as a first principle before the conversation can even begin, that the US is a democracy with the best form of government.

IMO we need to keep repeating to these people that the US is not a democracy, its a capitalist dictatorship, and it used liberal / parliamentary "democracy" to kill off an entire continent of native peoples, and has since been the most evil empire in world history.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The good news is that the US is making it easier and easier to have this conversation. Before the whole Epstein business, people dismissed you as a crazy conspiracy theorist when you pointed out that the west is ruled by unaccountable oligarchs. Now, it's become impossible to deny it.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Harvard scientists proved the US was an oligarchy about 15 years ago. It's old news and Americans didn't catch on until about 2024.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What's changed now though is that material conditions have deteriorated significantly from 15 years go. People didn't really have a reason to question the system as long as they could make ends meet and have some hope for the future. Today, a huge chunk of population has been pushed to the brink, and young people have nothing to look forward to. And that creates disillusionment in the system which makes people a lot more aware of what's happening.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It sure would have been better if people cared before like me but I guess I'll take any win. At least people are catching on now.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago

yeah, better late than never as the saying goes