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It could never have happened without someone cleaning the operating room.
Serious question. Are you intentionally being dense? Or just come by it accindently?
"ah but what if I change the example you used to a different example"
ok man have fun playing with your strawmen. Sweeping the floor of a warehouse is still not equally as important as life saving medical work.
There's no straw man, but. I'm not inventing a narrative. Every job is important.
Just because you don't think people who sweep floors matters to society doesn't change my opinion.
That warehouse could contain medical supplies. They could contain parts to build trucks that will transport medical supplies. That warehouse could contain equipment to build the medical devices that the surgeon could use.
You're just someone who deems worth based on what they do in completion, not that work and society all works together as a giant organism. And to look down at anyone who does manual labour as less than someone who saves lives is extremely sad. You should be ashamed.
That is not what I said. That is another strawman.
You said EQUALLY important. I gave you examples of jobs that are not EQUALLY important.
It didn't it was mostly garbage fast fashion $5 shirts made to be worn once and thrown out.
Fuck you quit projecting. I was using my own work as an example kiss my ass. YOU are the only one conflating the value of someone's labor with their value as a human.
Yeah no. I refuse to be someone who thinks someone's worth is worthless because of the labour they do. Every job is important. Every job is necessary. I've never said wages or other such things should be equal but every man's labour should be considered equal. Everyone does a job for a reason and every job is required for other jobs to function.
Just because you think a janitor's job doesn't matter in society as much as a heart surgeon still doesn't change my opinion.
And you might want to look up what a strawman argument is, because I don't think you understand the definition correctly. You're the one who brought up janitor vs heart surgeon, not me. Last I checked, BOTH JOBS ARE NECESSARY JOBS AND BOTH ARE EQUAL IN THEIR WORTH.
ok. maybe this will help.
Lets say there is a shortage of trauma surgeons and a shortage of theme park ~~groundskeepers~~ ride engineers. Is fixing one of these shortages more important?
Does that imply anything about the relative value of the labor being performed?
How much you wanna bet the guy is just gonna ignore your comment or claim that you hate theme park staff?
That is not what the other person is saying. Stop being dumb.
I love the fact we're in a work reform instance and people are falling over backwards to dehumanize labour.
It's remarkable. They literally said someone who sweeps the floors is worth less than someone giving a heart transplant, but the person sweeping the floors is integral to that surgeon performing the heart transplant.
And so many people here want to completely say the work by the janitor which is essential to the work of the surgeon should be worth less.
I hope you maintain that position when you go in for lifesaving surgery and it's just some dude with a broom.