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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is terrible political fiction. One of the demands Iran is making now is for US to completely leave the region. How could Europe and China agree to this on behalf of US? This simply makes no sense. Trump can end the war at any time. The problem is that there is no deal available to him that will not completely embarrass him. European, Chinese and Russian ships will not escort anything because they will not risk armed conflict with US. You're basically talking about openly ending NATO and creating new anti-US alliance between countries that have completely different interests. This idea is completely ignoring geopolitical reality we live in.

[–] panthera_@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Europe, Russia, and China could get Iran to drop its demand that the US completely leave the region. If Europe, China, and Russia negotiate a deal with Iran, Trump might be happy since it would end the war and prices will drop. Trump also would be pressured to end the war since the deal would certainly have arrangements that prevent Iran from developing a nuclear bomb. Trump has said that this is his goal. If he rejects the deal, he will have to explain what else does he want. If Trump rejects the deal, it's up to Europe, China, and Russia whether they want to risk war with the US or leave it up to Trump to negotiate a deal.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Trump rejects the deal, it’s up to Europe, China, and Russia whether they want to risk war with the US or leave it up to Trump to negotiate a deal.

I'm 1000% sure Europe, China and Russia don't want to risk a war with the US. This whole idea makes no sense. Trump already should have explained what the fuck is he trying to achieve with this war. He didn't and nothing happened.

[–] panthera_@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's up to Europe, China, and Russia whether they want the future of Iran and its impact on the world to be decided by them or Trump.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I will be decided by Trump one way or the other because Europa, China and Russia can't force Trump to do anything.

[–] panthera_@lemmy.today 1 points 20 hours ago

Europe, China, and Russia can't force Trump to accept the deal, but they can proceed without Trump. As I said, Trump might be happy there is a deal since prices would drop.