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Their models may also be based on US models.
It'll be hard for derivative models to innovate if their host organism has died.
Distillation isn't stealing the original model, though. It just uses the models to make synthetic training data to train their own thing. They aren't stealing the model itself.
Plus, a lot of companies do it. Anthropic's Claude was calling itself DeepSeek for a while.
It also doesn't seem like as big a deal as Anthropic and Open AI make it look, IMO. Them treating it like a national security issue where the company gets its models stolen from under its nose just comes across like a media company claiming that every download is a copy they would otherwise have sold at full price, and thus they have accrued trillions of dollars in damages.
I could, in theory, take a bunch of google Gemini outputs, and train a GPT-2 model on them. That doesn't mean that I've recreated Gemini, nor does it mean that i've stolen it from Google, either.
I don't understand how anyone can keep a straight face when they hear an AI company crying about another AI company "stealing" from them while they go before lawmakers and argue that if they weren't allowed to steal stuff, AI wouldn't exist... I immediately picture the Always Sunny meme "oh, did someone get addicted to crack" Crying motions.
Why are you stalking me? I never messaged you here?
Get help.
Honestly dude, calling people out by username for downvoting you isn't the mic drop that you think it is. It just makes you seem petty.
I figured mods might be curious about the self-appointed community vigilante. Also I am petty.
... you?
Elaborate. Try to stay on topic!
No.
How about you fuck off mate :)
You still don’t know that word huh?
Before we discuss any further, please look up the definition of the following terms:
And it was not advice, but a request, and I don’t see why I would need to do that whether it’s advice or a request.
And if you think it’s disingenuous not to take you own advice, why are you not following your own advice of staying on topic?
Which was proton and your failure to come up with anything remotely resembling capitulation (lol)
What's this got to do with Chinese AI model training?