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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

So he blames it all on the "imperial apparatus". The refusal of the Western Left to do any real introspection about its own faults (such as its chauvinism and its entryism – and their entryism is intimately tied to their exceptionalism, believing that it can succeed in the "civilized" West even though it has failed everywhere else) continues.

The reality is that if there weren't such large swathes of the Western Left that were willing to embrace chauvinism and social-democratism and betray the international working class, no amount of repression would have succeeded in eliminating the real revolutionaries and so thoroughly suppressing class consciousness.

If the Western Left had stuck to the Marxist-Leninist and internationalist line instead of turning against their own more radical comrades and against Actually Existing Socialist states, then the only thing that the imperial apparatus could have done is go full Jakarta Method. This can be done in a colonized country but would have been too destabilizing for the imperial core.

But it was precisely the betrayal of the global south by large swathes of the Western Left that led it into the pathetic, disorganized, ideologically confused state and the dead end of social democratic entryism that it now finds itself in.

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 days ago

That's why the most effective and the most organized leftist org in the US was the Black Panther Party, who had vocal solidarity with the Global South. They Supported China, North Korea, Cuba, Palestine etc.

[–] stalinmustacheuwu@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You are giving them way too much credit. They didnt betray Marxism out of idealism or exceptionalism, they did it out of plain COWARDICE and CONFORMISM!

[–] ComradeSasquatch@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The reality is that if there weren’t such large swathes of the Western Left that were willing to embrace chauvinism and social-democratism and betray the international working class, no amount of repression would have succeeded in eliminating the real revolutionaries and so thoroughly suppressing class consciousness.

I wouldn't consider those people to be of the "left". They're liberal reformists at best.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 days ago

"left" and "right" are just relative terms, their meaning depends on the status quo.

In the US not hunting homeless people for sport is already progressive, thus "left". Does that mean all yankee "leftists" are some kind of socialist? No.