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[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

It's weird because copilot in office tries to push agents on you as if it were a Jehovah's witness.

So GitHub copilot doesn't have them? I don't really use that.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 46 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

It's saying Copilot was the first on the scene and had access to literally all of the training data anyone could possibly want, and is still being shown up by most other AI models. Their failure to capture the vibe coding space is a legendary fumble. At least that was my read.

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Eh wait. Copilot (any of the about 30 products with copilot in the name) is not a model. Microsoft makes a few models like phi but they're underwhelming. All of copilot runs on models from external parties like openai and anthropic. So basically Microsoft is at the mercy of their own competitors. They're in the awkward position that providing training data to their model providers not only improves their own product but their competitors' as well.

Additionally, Microsoft's most profitable market is enterprise and they would absolutely shiver at their data being used for training and would abandon the service in droves.

Despite being "all in on AI" Microsoft is in a really vulnerable position. Their added value is their integration with their other services (and data therein through RAG).

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Pfffft. No way. That would be like the company that owned skype failing to capitalize on video calls during some sort of major pandemic.

[–] Town@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

At least Minecraft has been a success

[–] nightm4re@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

No thanks to Microsoft 🤔

[–] Mika@piefed.ca 4 points 14 hours ago

They have agents, but they weren't the first to make agents, and they aren't the most advanced agentic system too. Maybe someone can enlighten me but I don't see a single strong upside.

[–] TheOctonaut@piefed.zip 2 points 14 hours ago

It does have agents.

No idea what the person above thinks. Maybe they think agents are just those little toys where you build an app in an iframe from a chat on the side.

I mean, GitHub has one of those, but CoPilot agents are primarily directed from CLI, the Issues system, and in VSCode. Because GitHub makes their money from enterprises who employ developers, not I've Got An App Idea guys.