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[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

No complaints about the comic here, but if I/we may go off on a tangent about the subject matter:

To what extent is "destroy the patriarchy" a red herring to get people angry at "men" rather than "sociopathic billionaires of all genders?"

Sexism is still a thing, of course, just like racism and all kinds of other awful shit. But those awful parts of our nature are often stoked by those in control to keep the attention off of them. "No war but class war," as the Lemmings say.

In my little corner of the world, when I see memes about crushing/destroying the patriarchy, it's usually in the social context of a sticker on suburban moms' Stanley cups, or t-shirts, or even occasionally SUVs. They (mostly) hate Trump, sure, but they have no problem with J. K. Rowling or Kamala Harris.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is not a red hearing at all unless it is used to displace another message. So if you were talking about class warfare and your message was drowned out or disrupted by a message of destroy the patriarchy then you could say it is a red hearing.

Sexism isn't just a thing, it is "the" thing to be honest. For example, the leader of the KKK commented over a decade ago that he would rather vote for a black man (Obama) than a white woman (Hillary). Let that sink in, one of the most racist people is still more sexist than racist.

You bring up the fact that people in control use sexism to manipulate people. For sure they do just like they use racism. The crazy part is they might not even be racist or sexist themselves but they know it resonates with people so they will use it for their propaganda.

I think you make a great point about a disconnect that those who are against the patriarchy may have with class issues. On the other hand you could also tie the patriarchy to issue like transgender rights through rigid enforcement of gender roles and fueling genocide with hierarchical structures.

That's my theory for why trump won the last election.

To what extent is "destroy the patriarchy" a red herring to get people angry at "men" rather than "sociopathic billionaires of all genders?"

Very little. The patriarchy is not about "men better than women," but about enforcing rigid social roles that restrict everybody. Men are expected to show strength, be emotionless, and give their lives in the pursuit of social status far more than women. They are then brainwashed by the power they hold over women into thinking this is a good thing, all the while making us all less free.

This dynamic is so powerful and so prevalent that it is the single greatest social strategy the oligarchs have access to. Every fascist movement on earth succeeds or fails depending on how well they exploit men's place in the patriarchy. The problem with patriarchy lies not in who wears the crown, but how it turns average men into loyal foot soldiers.

On the other hand, women like JK Rowling reinforce their own oppression, as do the actually toxic women who spend all their time hating men. They ostracize other women for not meeting their standards while viewing relationships with men as purely transactional and oppositional. Transphobia is common as they seek to make rigid distinctions between themselves and men. In doing this they cement their roles in society, which only serves both patriarchy and oligarchy.

So no, destroying the patriarchy is not a distraction from class war, but an essential part in winning it. It has nothing to do with hating men, and the myth that it does is propaganda that only serves hierarchy.

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Because that’s largely class reductionism.

Fighting class is one of the most important battles, but it is not the only one in the war on hierarchy.

[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

It is just as it is the major problem in a lot of countries and their societies.

However, being a gal doesn't make one perfect either. Thatcher and Elizabeth destroyed womens rights, workers rights, and protected pedophiles in their ruling tenure.