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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Galileo's Basilisk [OC] (hexmhell.writeas.com)

submitted 4 days ago by hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/37599571

This is less related to actually existing "AI" and more about one of the myths (or, ultimately, the constellation of myths) that drives people to work on "AI." I posted this on Mastodon, but it probably belongs here as well.

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[–] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

After thinking a bit more, I do still think there's value in memetic inoculation. By presenting the idea as absurd when viewed outside of the context of Rationalism, it may decrease transmission of the constellation of ideas that make it seem to make sense.

This becomes the difference between prevention (this essay) and treatment (some future essay working from within the paradigm).

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh im in favour of both, see here from the above:

This is all fine, by the way. I think it’s actually good to miss the point of Roko’s Basilisk and just laugh at it. However, it’s also useful to have a deeper theory.

what you’re describing is the old SneerClub method, whose effectiveness was proven in the subreddit’s height with a large number of (some quite significant) testimonials

my point is that there is something deeper at work here as well, namely a political economy of virtuous selfishness which latches on to ideas like Roko’s Basilisk to give itself an eschatology and therefore meaning

[–] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hadn't even been aware of this community until someone in FuckAI said I should x-post here. It's pretty cool. I'm excited this place exists. :)

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

lol

I hadn’t even been aware of this community until someone in FuckAI said I should x-post here

that’s good advertising