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[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 47 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You do realize that the problem is that people need money? Yea, many would likely have a choice where to work but many might Not have had options.

What is needed is financial basic freedom for everyone. Countries need to sit down and figure out how to make it work because as it stands, jobs have turned into a form of slavery by design.

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Dunno man, there is nothing they do at Meta that is in anyway considered "good", or is there?

I mean, looking at the recent posts about ICE hiring with bonus, you'd think taking that offer is also fine when you need money?

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I really hope you can see the difference between a tech company hire and dudes on the streets playing SS

[–] mangaskahn@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

There's no difference when the tech company is used to push propaganda supporting the SS and the workers don't stand up to it. They are complicit and therefore responsible.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Meta is largely the reason for the current state of the world via their purposeful boosting of alt-right talking points. They've helped incite a genocide ffs. They're not actively on the streets shooting people but this is what the company pushed for

I'm not American but I am in tech and have been unemployed since January and even though my financial situation is grim, Meta and Palantir are two companies I would never, ever work for or even apply to. There's always plenty of other companies to apply to (which is what I did and I start somewhere tomorrow!)

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

The difference is smaller than you think

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They certainly think they do a lot of good. We sit off in the distance reading the latest Reddit threads about whatever latest outrage has happened, and it looks all negative to us. But from their point of view they are serving 3 billion people’s needs to connect and network.

I’m not saying I see it that way. But you seem to imply that they all know they work for an Evil Empire but they truly don’t see it that way. There are a lot of young people there who don’t look past the cachet of working for a well known and successful company. And there are wiser ones who genuinely believe the good outweighs the bad.

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That's bullshit. Almost all meta hires are poached, and they're not coming for you if you're not in a position to make good money.

The vast majority of these people chose to leave an already cushy job to get in there.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean if I worked for a soul sucking corporation (pick one Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc.) and another shitty corporation (Meta) offered me a substantial pay raise why wouldn't I take it?

Isn't that the issue? We've created a system where you need money to live, and basically if you buy food and have a place to live you contribute to a system of exploitation.

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I mean if I worked for a soul sucking corporation (pick one Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc.) and another shitty corporation (Meta) offered me a substantial pay raise why wouldn’t I take it?

But that's not the real scenario. Monstruous companies aren't the only jobs around. There's a bajillion smaller and more ethical companies that hire the same kind of profiles as Meta.

Also the mega-corporations tend to not poach small fish from each other. Sure they'll go after each other's top performers but there's a tacit agreement that "normal workers" are not fair game.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Clearly you have not been looking for a job lately. I've known people with experience and degrees that have been searching for like 6 months. It's bad out there, especially for the tech industry.

Idk why you want to fight the worker and not the corporations

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’ve known people with experience and degrees that have been searching for like 6 months

If that is the case then Meta probably won't touch their resume with a 10-ft pole.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Right so now you've taken 2 steps back. It's not more moral to work for any other corporation that meta is poaching either.

Is it more moral to work for Amazon? Microsoft? Walmart?

Not really. The worker should try to improve their material condition since that's the position we've all been put in.

You suggest everyone go work for a "small buisness" when those jobs simply don't exist.

I don't know why you are trying to shame the worker for trying to survive in the system.

Fun fact btw Walmart and Amazon are the 2 largest employers in the US. I suppose all their workers should quit and go work for Bob's Bait & Tackle down the road. I'm sure he has about 3 million jobs just lying around

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you under the impression that only Amazon, Microsoft & Walmart are hiring ? Did every software company suddenly vanish while i was napping ? Sorry but there are a million companies hiring the same kind of profiles as Meta, which are not evil monopolistic mega-corporations.

Also what's Walmart got to do with this ? You think greeters and cashiers are hired from the same pool as Meta product owners ?

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Right so now if we once again go back 2 comments you can remember my comment on the poor state of the current job market.

Also what's Walmart got to do with this ? You think greeters and cashiers are hired from the same pool as Meta product owners ?

See you missed the point there. Walmart has and continues to do irreprepable harm to the economy, workers, and the planet. By the logic you proposed the workers are responsible for that. Just like the workers for meta are responsible.

Honestly it doesn't matter if you make 300k a year at Meta or $12 an hour at Walmart. At the end of the day when compared to the billionaires exploiting the labor of both the difference between these workers is about a billion dollars

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu -2 points 2 days ago

Honestly it doesn’t matter if you make 300k a year at Meta or $12 an hour at Walmart

It absolutely does. If you can make 300K at Meta you can make 250K someplace else. Missing out on those extra 50K is nowhere near an existential threat to you.

If you make 12$/h at Walmart i am not blaming you for taking what you can and making a living of it. If you work for a Meta subcontractor in Kenya doing 300$ a month i am not blaming you.

But if you choose to work for an objectively evil company while you have other options (which you definitely have if EvilCorp is even considering your resume), and you make that choice just to maximize your discretionary spending... then you can't play the solidarity card.

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You do know that meta doesn't only have high level jobs, right? There cannot just be middle managers everywhere without the bog standard workers.

What kind of perception do you have of tech giants? That all who work there are some kind of imaginary elite?

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 10 points 2 days ago

meta doesn’t only have high level jobs

The majority of their hires are experienced profiles. "Bog standard" worker in Meta is already a pretty high paying job as entry level work is massively outsourced.

all who work there are some kind of imaginary elite?

That's not at all what i'm saying. I'm saying if you can land a job at Meta then you can absolutely find a job elsewhere. There is nobody in the world who is stuck between an empty belly and accepting a position at Meta. They're just stuck between making good money somewhere, and making better money at Meta.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Noooo everyone at meta is making at minimum 300,000 a year.

They poach their janitors

[–] leoj@piefed.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would imagine their janitors don't actually work for meta, but are provided via a complex web of contracts that helps them pay the janitors as little as possible, while enriching a middle man who does... little...

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 0 points 2 days ago

Exactly. Mega corps don't touch entry level work, they do exactly as you say and pay a friend of theirs so that this friend can steal wages from poor people and guarantee them floor-level prices.

[–] jve@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

almost all Meta hires are poached

You think they poached “almost all” of their 80k employees?

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 2 points 1 day ago

It's kind of standard practice at this level. They get a million resumes a week in inbound, of which they hire very little, and they have an army of recruiters who go searching for people in the industry, who for the most part already have a job.

It's way more profitable to let small startups grow juniors into competent employees and pluck them when they're ripe, than to take risks on junior profiles. (not that i condone it but it's a sad truth of recruitment)

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago

Countries need to sit down and figure out how to make it work because as it stands, jobs have turned into a form of slavery by design.

Yeah, they already did that, and "slavery by design" is what they came up with.

The next time, we don't consult our country, we force them to do what WE want.