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[–] SHBI7368@sh.itjust.works 100 points 1 week ago (11 children)

god dam where they getting that

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 69 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (11 children)

If do contract work that's not even that much

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

True, then insurance and no time off or other benefits would suck.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

It's only "no time off" if that's what you want. It's time off whenever you want (and sometimes when you don't want).

Accurate. Source: 20 years solo.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Contract work is rarely direct deposit, though?

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

US banking is weird. How would it be paid instead?

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I've never hired a software consultant, but most of the time when I hire a company or person to do contract work like roofing, gardening or similar they prefer to be paid by check. Sometimes they accept credit cards, but usually not when the bill is over a certain amount, due to the cut going to the card company.

Furthermore, "Direct Deposit" is basically a special term used for people getting their wages or salary paid to their bank account, as opposed to receiving it by check or cash. Other types of bank-to-bank transfers have different names, like "wire transfer" or "ACH transfer".

Americans love overcomplicating things in general, and particularly love using overly specific and technical names for stuff. There's acronyms everywhere, and things are named after weird technicalities. Like nobody says "retirement account", they call it "401(k)", named after the paragraph in the law which defines it.

You find stuff like that everywhere if you look. Some of their coins don't even have a value printed on them, you just have to memorize how much they're worth.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

In Europe (maybe also elsewhere outside the US?) nearly all transactions are simply direct bank transactions. Occasionally facilitated through some app, but usually it's just your own bank's app. Nobody has used checks for decades, and the only reason we're using credit cards is because the US keeps forcing them on us.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

You just have to memorize the coins

Plus they are not even logically ordered by size or anything.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Americans love overcomplicating things in general, and particularly love using overly specific and technical names for stuff. There’s acronyms everywhere, and things are named after weird technicalities. Like nobody says “retirement account”, they call it “401(k)”, named after the paragraph in the law which defines it.

As a plus, I can greatly confuse and terrify an Irish person by telling them about the thousands I send "to the old IRA" every year. 😂

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[–] tyler@programming.dev 17 points 1 week ago

Nah, that’s a normal paycheck for a medium level engineer in any American big city.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah that’s a very big monthly pay

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

$150,000/yr (yes big, less than median for software engineers in the US) is $2k/week, $8k/month

Edit: $2k/week after taxes because direct deposit is the context of this discussion

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago
[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's not that outrageous as a higher-level IC in a big tech company in a big city. But if you're that senior you're not questioning why you became an engineer.

[–] otterpop@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There's a reason the typical dev career pipeline ends at farmer. People get tired of all the bs and leave never to be seen again.

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[–] tyler@programming.dev 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean, you definitely do. I know numerous people that dropped the field entirely (including me) even though the pay is ridiculous.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] tyler@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Same ballpark yeah

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago
[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I approve of this.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

Sometimes it is just a really intense garden.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I also left, the industry is toxic right now. Circus for me

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Oh, you definitely wonder how long you can keep up with the corpo bullshit, but that wasn't the vibe I was getting from the first panel. That was giving me more of a "junior engineer who can't get something to work" vibe.

I've traded half my pay for more fulfilling work and less corpo bullshit before, but I didn't quit engineering. I see some people dreaming about leaving it all behind and buying a farm, but what they all had in common was zero farming experience. The grass is always greener and all that.

[–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Eh, that looks like typical take home for a staff level engineer in a big city.

Edit: Assuming they get paid every two weeks, that’s an annual take home of $161,122. Depending on state taxes, insurance coverage, 401k contributions, dependents, etc, that’s a base salary of $200-250k. Which, yeah, that’s what I budget for a staff salary.

[–] Bananskal@nord.pub 10 points 1 week ago

$161,122

Heck, I'd be pulling more than that if I were a self-employed consultant rather than under a consulting firm, in our small city in northern Scandinavia.

Now I'm raking in a little below that, and I'm taking out like a third of it as actual salary and saving the rest, to avoid high taxes, and to to pay for a leased car, pension saving, extra insurance etc, before taxes. But after all that I'm probably saving $3k every month tax free, and maybe $1,5k in my bank account.

Engineering life is pretty okay. Still can't afford a house yet though. Thanks boomers.

[–] glitches_brew@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Key phrase is "big city". I'm a staff and there's a mid on my team that moved to Seattle. His cost of living adjustment when he moved allows him to make more than I do.

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[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I think for a SF based company 200 - 250k salary is typical for even a senior engineer.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Monthly it's about what I'd expect for a low-medium experience engineer. But I'm an industrial engineer not software.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Lol they are not

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn't say it's salary. A lot of companies pay out bonuses right around now.

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[–] AnotherMadHatter@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Mechanical Engineer (union) with 20 years experience, slightly underpaid at $76.33/hr in (just north of the) Seattle area.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If that's monthly pay, that's at or below average.

If that's bi-weekly......fuck I need to up my engineering game.

[–] fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the US...

Different in other parts of the world, even in Europe this is a high salary (but it reminds me to still ask for a raise...)

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

That's because in Europe you have basic human rights like healthcare or the ability to not work while you're sick.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

California. It goes with high cost of living.

If you can add AI to your title somehow, that might even be midrange. I was talking to someone who has not been doing this long pushing pretty close to a half million dollar salary and then bonuses on top.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

After taxes that's like 300k salary.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Closer to $200-$250K depending on how much you withhold for 401k.

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