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POLL: Rule nr 3 - should race results be allowed in topic title (strawpoll.com)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by wes@lemmy.world to c/formula1@lemmy.world

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Yesterday, a discussion about race results in thread titles became quite heated, so I decided to lock the thread.

Personally, spoilers don’t bother me. If I can't watch a race live, I stay off my phone entirely until I’ve caught up. Since results are everywhere: TV, radio, and all over social media, avoiding them is usually up to the individual.

The current spoiler rule was originally implemented by three moderators (myself included) as the community grew. However, I am now the only active mod left, and I don't want to be the sole person deciding whether to change this policy. Even if we change the rule, there's always a chance someone will post a result in their excitement, and I won't always be available to remove it immediately.

I’ve created a poll to let the community decide. It will remain open until this Thursday:

https://strawpoll.com/bVg8BLRQ3yY

PS: I understand that disagreements can get intense, but please keep the conversation respectful. There’s enough negativity in the world already, let's keep this community a positive place.

Edit: the results are in!

Rule number 3 will not be adjusted. Thanks for voting everyone!

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[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You said we should do things for a reason but you haven't given a reason why we should do thing one way or another. You've only given your opinion disguised as a reason, which is also why it makes no sense to you when I replace your opinion with a different opinion and keep the disguise intact, it stops being your opinion so it stops making sense. Maybe this will make it clearer?

On the other side we have a nebulous and hypothetical group of strangers. This group does not want to watch races, but does sort of want to know what liveries or helmets were made for the race. But they also don’t want to put in any effort whatsoever to find out themselves. They don’t read the sports news. In fact, all they want is to be able to skim titles as they’re scrolling social media and find out without even having to open the post in question. That way they can see the liveries and helmets so they can participate in F1-related small talk in the office while simultaneously putting in the absolute minimum effort required to engage with the sport.

I can also flip it around and defend race win posts.

This is a community for F1. Race wins are a large part of that. Someone interested in F1 has a good chance to be at least curious about who won. I don’t understand how you got from there to thinking I would purport we ban race winner posts?

Any argument you give on why we should ban race win posts can most likely be used to argue for banning anything else and any argument you give why we shouldn't ban something can most likely be used to argue why we shouldn't ban race win posts. That's because you're presenting your opinion as the argument.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 points 2 months ago

I still don't get it, but maybe that's just me being autistic. I'm presenting both the argument and my opinion. I see it like this:

Argument 1: We should NOT allow post titles to spoil race winners, as this might make life a little easier for those who want to watch races but can't always catch them live. They might be able to use Lemmy as usual during a race weekend without having the race spoiled for them, or without needing to unsubscribe to and/or block the F1 sub and/or some of its frequent posters.
Argument 2: We should ALLOW post titles that spoil race winners, as this might be more convenient for people who want to know who wins but don't want to watch races. This way they can see it right in the post list and won't even have to click to find out. This rule will also make life easier for moderators.

My opinion is that avoiding spoilers in titles is the favourable approach, but I see validity in the moderation argument especially.

I don't see how any of this is directly transposable to helmets or whatever. That's a completely different sets of arguments, completely unrelated to the spoiling of race winners.