Yesterday, a discussion about race results in thread titles became quite heated, so I decided to lock the thread.
Personally, spoilers donโt bother me. If I can't watch a race live, I stay off my phone entirely until Iโve caught up. Since results are everywhere: TV, radio, and all over social media, avoiding them is usually up to the individual.
The current spoiler rule was originally implemented by three moderators (myself included) as the community grew. However, I am now the only active mod left, and I don't want to be the sole person deciding whether to change this policy. Even if we change the rule, there's always a chance someone will post a result in their excitement, and I won't always be available to remove it immediately.
Iโve created a poll to let the community decide. It will remain open until this Thursday:
https://strawpoll.com/bVg8BLRQ3yY
PS: I understand that disagreements can get intense, but please keep the conversation respectful. Thereโs enough negativity in the world already, let's keep this community a positive place.
Edit: the results are in!
Rule number 3 will not be adjusted. Thanks for voting everyone!
I don't understand your counter arguments, really. I never once brought up upvote counts or engagement. I don't see the logic you're purporting to draw from the helmets either. This is a community for F1. Helmets and liveries are a large part of that. Someone interested in F1 has a good chance to be at least curious about helm or livery design. I don't understand how you got from there to thinking I would purport we ban helmet posts?
All I'm saying is: we know there is a significant part of our community that can't watch races live, and would like to remain unspoiled so they can watch later. We can choose to do what we can to help these fans out and protect them, by electing to not include spoilers in post titles to the extent we are able without completely compromising the function of the sub at a whole. I'm not suggesting a news blackout, I'm not suggesting banning race clips or accidents or stuff like Hadjars crash. Yes, they are also spoilers but we can't bend over backwards. This is only about whether or not we should include spoiler information about race winners in the title of a post.
We can also elect to just say "fuck em" to the people who can't watch live. But I don't think we should, and I don't understand why we would go that route. What do we lose by having titles be spoiler free (eg: "Winner of the Miami Grand Prix!" with a blurred image)? To me it seems like we lose nothing, we don't impose any particularly strenuous burdens on ourselves, but at the same time we might make a huge difference for some of our community members.
And that leads me back to the beginning of "who is this for?". Who are we hurting by doing spoiler free titles? Who stands to benefit from the current status quo that would suffer by introducing spoiler free titles?
You said we should do things for a reason but you haven't given a reason why we should do thing one way or another. You've only given your opinion disguised as a reason, which is also why it makes no sense to you when I replace your opinion with a different opinion and keep the disguise intact, it stops being your opinion so it stops making sense. Maybe this will make it clearer?
I can also flip it around and defend race win posts.
Any argument you give on why we should ban race win posts can most likely be used to argue for banning anything else and any argument you give why we shouldn't ban something can most likely be used to argue why we shouldn't ban race win posts. That's because you're presenting your opinion as the argument.
I still don't get it, but maybe that's just me being autistic. I'm presenting both the argument and my opinion. I see it like this:
My opinion is that avoiding spoilers in titles is the favourable approach, but I see validity in the moderation argument especially.
I don't see how any of this is directly transposable to helmets or whatever. That's a completely different sets of arguments, completely unrelated to the spoiling of race winners.