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ASML makes the machines and they're restricted from exporting to China. Does China have the capability to make comparable ones itself?
A lot of companies make lithography machines, ASML just makes the best ones.
As of 2023, China has domestic companies who have made 28nm process nodes: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/chinas-first-28nm-capable-scanner-to-be-delivered-by-end-of-2023
This was top of the line around 2010. So in consumer tech terms: Apple's A7 SoC (iPhone 5S, iPad Air), Intel Sandy Bridge/AMD Bristol Ridge and DDR3 RAM .
They have better machines in production, they just cannot manufacturer them domestically. Using those machines they're producing:
They do not have any EUV (sub-5nm) capacity domestically.
China isn't that far behind current generation chips and most people are probably using devices with 14/7nm chips in them due to the AI bubble eating up all of the newest process chips and driving prices out of reach of consumers.
Those are the entirelly the predictable consequences of America getting away with blocking the sale of such machines to China.
What the fuck did those strategically inept morons expected: that a country the size of China which trains TONS of Engineers would in an area were progress has actually slowed down a lot just give up and go "yeah, we'll yield to the will of America and accept that our future is making plastic gadgets" rather than try to catch up to a competition that's barelly moving forward???
Maybe the brainrot of Racism and Nationalism made those acephalic idiots think that Chinese are somehow inherently inferior to "our people" and couldn't possibly figure out by themselves how to progress in the area of chip making.
how long is Europe going to continue to do US policy just to screw China while being directly threatened and witnessing the US lose a war in Iran?
do you think they won't soon?