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Einar Tangen: U.S. Destroying World Order to Keep Hegemony (youtu.be)

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[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

When exactly do you think there was a window to wage a war on China

Always. The consequences of nuclear fallouts weren't worth it but that changes if there is no other opportunity left.

It couldn’t because Europe is not independent.

America needs Europe against China. What would they do if Europe says no? Nuclear war against Europe?

there’s no reason for the staff not to turn on them.

As there is now. Let the guards have family in other bunkers. Offer access to medical specialists elsewhere. But why live in a bunker if being on a ship in the Pacific is enough after some days?

They want power, but not at the cost of their own comfort.

Then why is the conflict not resolved?

It can do little to challenge the US there in practical terms, especially when the US navy starts doing active piracy on the high seas.

For now. At one point China has the better technology and will put an end to it. The US would be opened like China was opened. The US can't isolate for eternity.

If the US can’t dominate Eurasia, then they will do everything to throw it into chaos.

Who does the research for them instead? It would accelerate the Chinese technology takeover

It’s becoming clear that the US is very strained now, and they may have no choice but to retrench.

I think it's deception. Europe is still an ally. It's good cop, bad cop. We are at the beginning of the Iran war, not at the end. The US was prepared to fight two major wars at the same time. Like Syria, they will take their time to arrange the opposition.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Always. The consequences of nuclear fallouts weren’t worth it but that changes if there is no other opportunity left.

Again, there's zero rational advantage to nuclear winter over simply having hegemony over the western hemisphere. I'm really glad that even the oligarchs aren't this psychopathic.

America needs Europe against China. What would they do if Europe says no? Nuclear war against Europe?

America does not need Europe. What they need to make sure is that Europe doesn't become independent and economically integrated with China and Russia. So, the solution is to burn Europe down. This is very clearly what the US is doing right now. If the US actually needed Europe then they wouldn't be pursuing a destructive strategy against Europe. They'd be doing what they did during the Cold War when they poured a ton of resources into propping Europe up.

As there is now. Let the guards have family in other bunkers. Offer access to medical specialists elsewhere. But why live in a bunker if being on a ship in the Pacific is enough after some days?

And how long before one of the guards decides they don't need the rich baby anymore and they can just run the show themselves?

Then why is the conflict not resolved?

Because the conflict has no direct impact on them. I literally just explained this in my last reply. The current conflict is just a game for these people. There are zero personal consequences. They already have more wealth and power than they know what to do with. They will be comfortable no matter what happens, unless there is a nuclear holocaust. That's literally the only negative scenario for them that they would want to avoid.

For now. At one point China has the better technology and will put an end to it. The US would be opened like China was opened. The US can’t isolate for eternity.

I think the most likely scenario is that the US implodes, but China also hasn't been an expansionist power historically. I don't see any reason to expect China to do what the US is doing going forward.

Who does the research for them instead? It would accelerate the Chinese technology takeover

Creating instability is what the US does to slow down China. If Europe is thrown into chaos that will slow down Eurasian integration significantly. The same way the wars and terrorism did in West Asia. Europe isn't indispensable in any way. Also, if you look at research spending, you can see that Europe is a drop in a bucket compared to the US even now.

I think it’s deception. Europe is still an ally. It’s good cop, bad cop. We are at the beginning of the Iran war, not at the end. The US was prepared to fight two major wars at the same time. Like Syria, they will take their time to arrange the opposition.

We'll find out soon enough. I don't see any deception here myself. The US is very much strained economically, the numbers don't lie. The US lacks industrial base and isn't able to produce a lot of the things it needs. Europe is a burden for the US right now. It has never been an ally either. It's just been a convenient pawn to use against USSR during the Cold War. Now that USSR no longer exists, Europe has little value. If you think that the US would fight for Europe then prepare to be very surprised going forward.