President Donald Trump said “yeah, I probably will,” when asked whether he would consider pulling U.S. troops from Italy and Spain.
“Why shouldn't I? Italy has not been of any help to us and Spain has been horrible. Absolutely horrible,” he replied, doubling down on his argument that NATO allies have not supported the U.S. during the Iran war.
“We helped them [Europe] with Ukraine… but when we needed them, they were not there. We have to remember that.”
As of December 2025, there were 12,662 U.S. active-duty personnel stationed in Italy and 3,814 in Spain, according to data from the U.S. Defense Manpower Data Center (DMDC).
While Spain has yet to respond to Trump mulling over the troops, Italy’s Defense Minister Guido Crosetto has pushed back.
“I wouldn't understand the reasons behind it. As is clear to anyone, we haven't used the Strait of Hormuz. And we've even offered to carry out a mission to protect shipping—a gesture that, incidentally, was greatly appreciated by the U.S. military,” he told Italian ANSA news agency.
well if I make the opposite assumption or assume nothing at all, the conclusion is worse: "considering their vote, most Americans like trump and wanted a second term of misery for all"
My perception is that people who are too indifferent to vote are generally uninformed and uneducated, meaning they would probably vote for Trump.
that could perfectly be the case, which then implies the majority of voting age Americans wanted the misery we are all living through… which is a worse scenario than the one I pointed earlier
The problem is they're too clueless to understand that Trump being in office would cause such problems.