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Apple Was Caught Off Guard by MacBook Neo's "Off the Charts" Demand (www.macrumors.com)
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[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's fine for all those use cases. The M1 Air rocks all that 5 years later.

Also: install xcode, then

/bin/bash -c "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/HEAD/install.sh)"

or something like that, and stretch macOS a little. I bet if they refresh the model with 12 GB of RAM running emulation and virtualization will be hot.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I wish using their os wasn't so painful coming from linux

Like, why is bash ancient? (3.2 vs 5)

Why is there no package manager (brew doesn't count, just as npm doesn't count as a legitimate package manager)

Why are the utils like ls and friends flag-order-sensitive (you can ls -lah . but not ls . -lah)

Why do I have 40 network devices with cryptic names?

I got a fully loaded M5 at work and I don't want it. I just have a linux vm for doing work on it.

[–] calamityjanitor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Like, why is bash ancient? (3.2 vs 5) To avoid GPLv3, zsh is the new default.

Why is there no package manager Mac App store is the official one, can also install brew, macports, pkgsrc, or nix. Or use language/runtime specific ones like npm, pip, cargo, go.

Why are the utils like ls and friends flag-order-sensitive They avoid GNU versions of utilities, for similar licencing fears as avoiding modern bash. That said ls . -lah is unhinged, I don't know any other unix derived ls that supports that.

Why do I have 40 network devices with cryptic names? Yeah they got some weirdo Apple stuff

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

None of these are good reasons for it to be like this.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

zsh is much better than bash tho

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

but it isn't available anywhere else so I can't use it for scripts that get distributed.

[–] calamityjanitor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If your script starts with #!/bin/bash, both bash and zsh will run it fine. The bigger problem is the programs, filesystem and libraries being different. Which is why POSIX exists, if you're looking to write stuff that works across systems.

I couldn't tell if you were honestly asking for explanations or if all of your complaints sum up to "it's different and I don't like that". Which honestly, fair.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 points 1 week ago

bash 3.2 means that no, it wont run.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

not exactly. if you're worried about the differences between bash 3 and 5, you're probably using some intermediate bash-exclusive features because that's the headlining changes between these versions (google says associative arrays and new shellvars. even if zsh has equivalent features, the syntax would be different.) it's only "guaranteed" to run fine in both shells if the shebang ends in /sh to call the POSIX shell without any bash- or zsh- specific features.

it isn’t available anywhere else

i don't get what @greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo means by this though

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

brew doesn't count, just as npm doesn't count as a legitimate package manager

brew isn’t like npm at all though?