I am not telling you that you are morally failing. I am telling you that you are materially failing. If you put moral valence on that, that's on you. I don't think you're a bad person. I think you're good person with ineffective behaviors and incorrect ideas. Do you think I am a good person with ineffective behaviors and incorrect ideas, or do you think I am a bad person?

[–] meatcringe@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Them: we should improve society somewhat You: why are you moralizing at me?

We get it. We need to meet people where they are, we can't just go in guns blazing. This does not absolve us of our responsibility to move the masses towards global solidarity. To think otherwise is tailism.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Them: "You must stop buying chocolates that have child labor in their supply chain and if you don't you are literally supporting child labor."

Me: "Not only is this communication not effective and convincing a person, even if it was effective the results would not improve society because you are addressing the wrong leverage point and moving a single person every time to browbeat someone will never result in liberation"

We of course need to move the masses towards global solidarity. That comes from putting in real effort to build relationships, not attack the moral character of strangers.

[–] meatcringe@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

At what point did anyone in this thread attack the moral character of strangers?

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