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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 34 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Or, now hear me out, we tax the shit out of the rich and their corps, and implement UBI. That was supposed to be the plan ever since futurism envisioned advanced automation - the tech does the work, human reap the benefits and just do whatever. Capitalism just came along and fucked it all up instead because that's how rich assholes and investors measure their scores.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (6 children)

They always weasel out of taxes. My idea was to give each person something like carbon coins that works like an emission permit. Give everyone the same amount each month and keep it within nature's limits. Then, if someone wants to do something polluting like run a datacenter, they'll just have to purchase the coins for that from the open market from those willing to sell. The end result is still money going to the poor but not as a tax, and hard limit on pollution.

[–] nlgranger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It takes one country to not play along and the whole industry rushes there...

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, there is a need for tariffs, based on worst cause estimates of pollution, for countries not playing along.

[–] nlgranger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't that the principle of carbon credits ? (cf message from Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com). It doesn't work very well in practice, it's riddled with loopholes.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

That the same for taxes that UBI would depend on. See Panama papers. Corruption and loopholes are an issue in any system.

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