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Advice needed: Flock cameras at work, an update (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 5 days ago by west2seven@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/privacy@lemmy.world

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Thanks to everyone who replied to my prior post on Flock cameras at the entrance to my work.

I worked some emails to my union asking if I could see any contract between our company and Flock. The request was forwarded to the union president who replied to say that the union doesnt have that information and that they follow corporate policy. He asked if there was a specifc concern that is to be investigated.

I planned to follow up with the lawsuits section of the consumer rights wiki page on Flock (sorry links not working on my end) and possibly the video by Ben Jordan, although, i am hesitant to include any sensationalized and entertainment focused content as evidence to white collar proffesionals. That wouldnt be very substantial. I am looking for discrete and well documented evidence that the Flock cameras are recording and serving out more than license plate information.

Does anyone have anything they can share?

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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

https://www.404media.co/city-learns-flock-accessed-cameras-in-childrens-gymnastics-room-as-a-sales-pitch-demo-renews-contract-anyway/

Does your company want to give them full access to see whatever you're doing?

Also, your legal department should know that all of this footage is subject to discovery. Do you have control over retention? (Spoiler: no, you don't, "deleted" footage is still retained: https://arstechnica.com/google/2026/02/google-recovers-deleted-nest-video-in-high-profile-abduction-case/ )

[–] west2seven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ive tried to recreate this but im not a netowork engineer or anything. Ive seen the videos of people accessing the cameras. If i could access the cameras our facilities higher ups would surely lose their shit.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago

You may or may not be able to, but you also don't have control over who does. Flock does. They can access the cameras whenever they want. Any police officer (local, state, federal, ICE, CBP, etc.) can too.

And do you have control over access changes? Or can Flock push an update that accidentally lets anyone watch them?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Another one https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/may/02/flock-police-surveillance-tech-birds-iran-press-freedom

Some police officers also seem to be using Flock data to stalk their exes, partners and potential love interests. The Institute for Justice, a public interest law firm, recently conducted an analysis of media reports and found at least 14 cases across the US where cops are alleged to have accessed ALPR data to “to keep tabs on their romantic interests, including current partners, exes, and even strangers who unwittingly caught their eye in public”.