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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Obama tried to lay the groundwork for single payer health insurance but it was blocked by republicans

He was blocked by 40 republican senators? A parliamentarian? Crazy how republicans are never blocked like this. The only conclusion we can draw from dem actions is that they agree with genocide, ICE, allocating healthcare by wealth, etc, but know its unpopular with the people whose votes they're asking for.

My only interest is getting republicans and Trump out of office because nothing else is possible until that happens.

You know what doesn't help? Telling people to shut the fuck up and vote for a party that openly despises them.

You know what can help? Keeping people activated on their issues. This only works if the dems don't stand up to their own base.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Crazy how republicans never are never blocked like this.

Because republicans are more influenced by private interest groups. It’s crazy that you point this out yourself but need it explained to you.

You know what doesn't help? Telling people to shut the fuck up and vote for a party that openly despises them

Leftists are the only ones using this type of rhetoric which is why they are so unpopular with voters.

You know what can help? Keeping people activated on their issues. This only works if the dems don't stand up to their own base.

You mean like Fetterman and Sinema? How bout we blame all leftists for their actions the same way you try to scapegoat democrats for the actions of republicans.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because republicans are more influenced by private interest groups

You're saying being influenced by private influence groups is what allows republicans to use power to do things? This doesn't track.

Leftists are the only ones using this type of rhetoric which is why they are so unpopular with voters.

What?

You mean like Fetterman and Sinema? How bout we blame all leftists for their actions the same way you try to scapegoat democrats for the actions of republicans.

When dems have the power to stop a thing, and don't, this implies they agree with the thing. When dems continue republican policies after they take power, it implies they support that policy.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You're saying being influenced by private influence groups is what allows republicans to use power to do things? This doesn't track.

Of course… if republicans want to cut taxes for the rich then special interest groups will run propaganda to convince voters to support it.

If republicans want to run an oil pipeline through our water supply then special interests groups will bribe and manipulate the right people to make it happen. Going so far as to ignore science and convince their voters climate change isn’t real.

What?

No one is telling leftists to “shut the fuck up” and vote for dems.

What is actually happening is leftists are demanding their way or the highway and voters are pointing out the fact that leftists aren’t popular enough to win nationwide elections and not voting will just cause the government to move right.

Since most leftists don’t actually care about winning elections as much as complaining about dems, leftist choose to let the government slide further right.

In a democracy the majority decides. And when that happens leftist complain they’re being told to “shut the fuck up”.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago

Of course… if republicans want to cut taxes for the rich then special interest groups will run propaganda to convince voters to support it.

You know what's really easy to get voters to support? Policy that helps them and isn't bogged down with complicated means-testing, tax credits, and other shit that ultimately amounts to "This policy isn't for you".

No one is telling leftists to “shut the fuck up” and vote for dems.

Blue maga spent every day since October of 2023 doing this shit. Hell even in the run up to 2016 "Hey, running on popular policy is more electable than whatever the fuck this is"

In a democracy the majority decides

We don't have a democracy then, since the majority do not want genocide. Yet the dems preferred losing to not aiding genocide.