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How much of a pass do you give to people who truly believe what they see in media? (hexbear.net)
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Like, libs who think russian troops did all the things they've been accused of in western media. It kinda makes sense for them to cheer on Ukraine's latest terror attack if they truly believe that russians are doing all the warcrimes at the same time. I know in my life it feels like an insurmountable challenge to get someone to read an article from anywhere else in the world.

So, what's your tolerance for someone who truly thinks they're basing their worldview on reality but it actually just regurgitating propaganda?

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[–] free_casc@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't exactly disagree, but I would expand on that to say that Ukraine won the propaganda battle as the beneficiary of the dominance of US imperial media. Same difference, I suppose.

I think I'd also say that Russia blew the propaganda game from the beginning since the invasion was quite an aggressive move. They didn't really seem to care that much about appearing sympathetic, though.

I guess I just don't want to see Ukraine get too much credit for it cause I don't think they did anything particularly interesting besides be right-wing and get attacked.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah kind of doesn't matter how tbh. But look at Israel losing popular support in the US so badly after decades of total ownership of the narrative and full support of US imperial media.

[–] free_casc@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

True, I think the difference is that Israel gave it up by being a fascist project dominating/genociding their underclass. This is impossible to permanently spin in the information age.

Ukraine is neoliberalism with fascist characteristics under attack by non-hegemonic neoliberalism with anti-imperialist characteristics, much easier to spin.