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Like, libs who think russian troops did all the things they've been accused of in western media. It kinda makes sense for them to cheer on Ukraine's latest terror attack if they truly believe that russians are doing all the warcrimes at the same time. I know in my life it feels like an insurmountable challenge to get someone to read an article from anywhere else in the world.

So, what's your tolerance for someone who truly thinks they're basing their worldview on reality but it actually just regurgitating propaganda?

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

i don’t think it’s terrorist attack, that’s a war tbh, but those who don’t see nazism in ukraine won’t see it anyway as anything bad.

exploding trains or bridges with unwilling accomplices is more to the tune of terrorism, which they did. but anyway we should stop calling everything bad or evil as terrorism reflexively. ukraine is an aspirant state to join global empire so they can be kinder gentler nazis, like entity

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Terrorism is just like, any action undertaken with the goal of inspiring terror for political purpose

You could argue that the U.S. destroying vital infrastructure in Iran is war related, but since the goal is to starve and terrorize civilians into regime change, it's also terrorism

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

performed by non-state actor (anarchists cough cough). its definition is molded by the powers that be bombing middle east, not from its origins. Earlier "terrorists" of the 19th century were kinda clean on the civilian fatalities, all told, much better than military of the time. now, this isn't endorsement of some shit cia-qaeda gets up to, but one has to be kinda clear on the terms, if we saying it's non-state actors involvement - we are those, and seems like an unnecessary gimme to the security state. so we could argue either every war crime is also terrorism as well, or that terrorism definition is actually meaningless (aside from the court of law). kkk activities are terrorist for example? it fits all the boxes (non-state, political goals, change through inspiring fear).

the functional difference between a mortar operator in fallujah and suicide bomber is that one of them gets away with it. thus the terror laws which conveniently allows usa to label everyone they don't like terrorist, ignore rules of war and do whatever

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Terrorism is just like, any action undertaken with the goal of inspiring terror for political purpose

I think it's a much more useful definition to say it is the targeting of civilians for political purposes. Making a spooky short movie about enemy soldiers getting their heads blown off is not terrorism.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

The problem is that it's bullshit and trying to make a "useful definition for terrorism" misses that that is the point of it, to be able to accuse enemies of committing a special crime that by definition the U.S./whatever "can't" do. And they can, and frequently do, alter the terms of what terrorism means for their own benefit. Like, oh you need to target civilians for it to be terrorism? Welcome to the era of Combat Aged Males. Or the other comment saying that it's only terrorism when committed by a non state actor. Suddenly now the IDF literally can't do terrorism, but Hamas, being unrecognized by other states despite being state government, suddenly can? You and I both know that's bullshit.

It doesn't matter if the target is military or civilian and it doesn't matter if the perpetrator is a state actor or some schmuck, the only thing that makes it "terrorism" is if the answer to "was it intended to cause terror to effect political change" is "yes."

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

but those who don’t see nazism in ukraine won’t see it anyway as anything bad.

Idk about that. I didn't see Nazism in Ukraine before because the media didn't show anyway. I had to start looking at alternative news sources or have people point out the Nazi symbolism in the mainstream media sources here on hexbear before I thought it was more than a Russian pretense to attack Ukraine.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

its mainly cosplay nazism tbh, the obvious fascist state is pisrael, always was, but try convince libs of that. the main issue with ukraine as i see it, is it infecting libs with pre-nazi virus (common enemy, military, austerity, dehumanization, dismissal of "enemy" view), thus their dismissal of this cosplay troubles me greatly, because it portends bad stuff.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

It is a pretense in the sense Russia clearly doesn't inherently care about Nazism, but the Ukronazis are the most oppositional faction to Russia.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

I don't really throw the term around lightly but yeah i guess in the context of an active war it seems strange to call it terrorism rather than a warcrime.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Surely we can agree that there's a difference between attacking a military base and a hospital, right? The US and Israel have perpetrated countless terror attacks, which is not the same as them doing something "bad" (because just about every military action they have taken since 1946 is bad, but clearly in many cases not terrorism).

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

no, that's what it makes them war crimes.

if entity loses mandate of porky, they will be written as such in history books, because perpetrating warcrimes is for losers, by historical consensus definition. however if they continue to exist they will be called novel tactics for precision munitions or questionable. usa hasn't perpetrated war crimes, after all, despite the neverending warcrimes parade from korean war onwards, or before with phillippines or native people or black people internally before.