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UK moves to ban smoking for everyone born after 2008 (www.dw.com)

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Technically, the new law will raise the legal age requirement in the UK for buying cigarettes, cigars or tobacco, which is currently 18, by one year in every subsequent year, starting on January 1, 2027
This will effectively mean that people born on or after January 1, 2009 will never be eligible to buy them
Retailers will face financial penalties for selling the products to those not entitled to them
The government will also be empowered to impose a new registration system for smoking and vaping products entering the country, seeking to improve oversight
The bill will expand the UK's indoor smoking ban to a series of outdoor public spaces, for instance in children's playgrounds, outside schools and hospitals
Most indoor spaces that are designated smoke-free will become vape-free as well
Smoking in designated areas outside pubs and bars and other hospitality settings will remain permissible
Smoking and vaping will remain legal in people's homes
Vaping will become illegal in cars if someone under the age of 18 is inside, to match existing rules on smoking
Advertising for smoking and vaping products will be banned
People aged 18 or older will remain eligible to purchase vaping products, but some items targeted at younger consumers like disposable vapes have already been outlawed as part of the program

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

How about we say, smoking in your basement alone, in a house only you live in to avoid the semantics.

Cool, you're going to die or move sometime, and that smoked in house will go to someone else, which will harm them.

Your house burning down harms your community by using up emergency response resources.

Hell, the smoke from your burning house harms your neighbors. I should know, since the house halfway down the street from me caught fire and fogged up the whole neighborhood for a day. I had to take my wife to stay with her parents because the smoke was extremely irritating for her.

Other people like contractors and such can refuse to enter until the place is aired out.

Tell me you've never been in an indoor smoker's house without telling me.

Universally no one has any rights. Sort of, the opposite is also true. Universally, nothing is illegal.

That is litterally what we are discussing here. No it’s not universal anything. It’s my opinion.

Ah, so your opinion is law? Must be nice to be a despot. Am I talking with Kim? Maybe Vlad?

People who smoke do end up needing more medical care. But so do people who drink alcohol, eat red meat, or any of a large number of lifestyle choices

Yes... This was my point actually, and it takes away from your point that harming other people cannot be a right. Rights are determined by the society you are in. I don't have a right to murder because the society I'm in has said that murder is not a right. It's not any more complex than that.

What are you even arguing here? You've jumped around so much, I can't even really tell if yku remember what your position was? I think it was something like...

"Laws should be restricted to protecting people from other people, not from themselves."

Or...

"Well to be honest, there is an argument for letting you build bombs in your basement."