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‘Popesplaining’ Vance out of depth in argument over whether Iran is a just war (www.theguardian.com)

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Trump administration has riled head of Catholic church over use of theology to justify conflict in Iran

The contrast in experience between the two men disagreeing over war and theology was striking.

On the one side was Pope Leo XIV, the first North American to head the Catholic church and the first cleric from the Augustinian order, who this week visited the modern Algerian city where Saint Augustine once lived. For Leo, who wrote his doctoral thesis on Augustine’s ideas, it was the culmination of a lifelong intellectual interest.

On the other, the US vice-president, JD Vance, a very recent adult convert to Catholicism with no academic background in the history of the church’s thinking.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The surest way to peace is to round up Trump and all his cabinet and deliver them to Iran with an apology note and a promise that it will never happen again.

They can deal with punishing Trump, Vance, Miller, etc.

This is the only way forward that will begin to heal the world from the damages the US has caused.

I call it the Throw The Fuckers Under The Bus solution and if it doesn't work. Well, at least we don't have to look at these dumb fucks that created this most recent shit show to begin with.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This sounds pretty reasonable to me. We could even start with some sort of third party impartial place interested in Justice, like the Hague. We deliver them there and let Iran and the world decide how we get to a Just end to this conflict.

Let Netanyahu come defend trump in person too if he wants to. Israel is definitely invited to the trial at the Hague.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We could even start with some sort of third party impartial place interested in Justice, like the Hague. We deliver them there

and the Us would be obliged to invade, it's euphemistically called the Hague Invasion Act in case that ever happens.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2002/08/03/us-hague-invasion-act-becomes-law

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Depends on who is in charge after they get deported. From that article: "The administration never misses an opportunity to gratuitously antagonize its allies on the ICC," said Dicker. "But it's also true that the new law has more loopholes than a block of Swiss cheese."