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[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why is there need of special law against anti semitism? anti semitism is NOT different from any other kind of bigotry.

The way western countries engage in jewish exceptionalism like this is one of the major reason Israel has audacity to carry out its crimes, not to mention how these laws will be misused against pro palestine protestors.

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is not a special law against antisemitism. This is a generic law against incitement of hate and discrimination, with more serious punishments if violence is done, or if a group does it, or if serious consequences happen.

They added the word "anti-semitism" to the list of forbidden forms of incitement.

The Israeli newspaper makes it sound special, but it really is not.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They added the word “anti-semitism” to the list of forbidden forms of incitement.

Are there any other hate crimes regarding specific religion in that list?

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nope. That makes it somewhat odd.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yup, thanks for the context tho.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Are there any other hate crimes regarding specific religion in that list?

This may be the wrong question, but if the notion is special treatment toward a particular religion, I need to ask… and please forgive my ignorance… what mainstream examples exist of words like “antisemitism,” but regarding some other specific religion?

I’m trying to rule out the idea that this inclusion isn’t just a matter of listing off different common types of hate crimes. Off the top of my head, I can’t think of any words beside “antisemitism,” though I do know (1) “antisemitism” is specific to Judaism and (2) hate crime can target any religion. So, to be more fair, what else should they have included in the list?

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Islamophobia? Words like that can be made up about almost any ethnicity or religion. What wouldve been ideal will be to either not make this law or just simply say any kind of bigotry

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Uh didn't y'all tankies keep parroting Putin's "Ukraine is full of neonazis" line 4 years ago? Black sun flags and all that? Zelenskyy, a Jew, was supposed to be an antisemite?

Now when there's finally a law against it, everything has changed and antisemitism was never a real issue?

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

zionism and nazism can co exist, why are you surprised? also thats projection, I never said those things

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the homosexual Nazi-commie-Jews Putin warned us about.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm projecting most of your kind on you, tankie. It was specifically persecution of jews in Ukraine that your kind complained about. Now that there's a law against it, that's bad?

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

when did I do that?

[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seen plenty of that user's comments. Russia and China can do no wrong, all western countries are bad, etc.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Russia and China can do no wrong

never said that but ok

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You literally called Mao top 5 humans of the last century and said the millions of deaths were justified. You're a tankie.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You literally called Mao top 5 humans of the last century

Yes I did and I stand by it

said the millions of deaths were justified

I never said justified, I said he cant be solely blamed for those deaths and you are discrediting him whatever he achieved by this boogeyman logic.

I dont consider tankie as an insult

  1. I do not believe in liberalism and idea of liberal freedom liberal rights etc
  2. I am not an anarchist
  3. I believe in leninism and vangaurdism If you call those people tankies, fine by me.
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, in another comment you also said that the ones who were killed, rather than starved, deserved it.

I dont consider tankie as an insult

Personally I do, because I believe in personal liberties over authoritarian states' "right" to straight up roll tanks on civilians.

I do not believe in liberalism and idea of liberal freedom liberal rights etc

So you're an authoritarian and a bigot.

I am not an anarchist

Never claimed you were, those guys have some semblance of respect for human life. I do believe they even cherish freedom.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

said that the ones who were killed, rather than starved, deserved it

No I didnt? you are citing something out of context

Personally I do, because I believe in personal liberties over authoritarian states’ “right” to straight up roll tanks on civilians.

Your "liberal" state still carpet bombs people outside your borders. That proves liberalism is a shield of capitalist imperialism which you guys never learn.

So you’re an authoritarian and a bigot. Being anti liberal is common sense not bigotness, Authoritarian is a meaningless word. Every state is authoritarian

I respect human life, I do not believe in liberal idea of freedom.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No I didnt? you are citing something out of context

Your “liberal” state still carpet bombs people outside your borders. That proves liberalism is a shield of capitalist imperialism which you guys never learn.

Which one is that now? How is not being a bigot indicative of capitalist imperialism?

I respect human life, I do not believe in liberal idea of freedom.

You respect human life as long as the human is a slave and correct race and sexuality, got it.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
  1. Oh yeah that one yes I agree it was a civil war after all

  2. Seems like you are unaware of how western imperialism operates

  3. I never said anything about slavery race or sexuality and equality in those regards and they arent linked to liberalism whatsoever. Best women rights in 20th century was in communist states, soviet union legalized abortion in 1921 and decriminalized homosexuality around the same time. Liberalism do not have copyright to these stuff.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Liberty means freedom and you said you're against liberty.

Like I've tried to explain to you 10 times, the word liberalism in the context of eastern european politics or even modern western conservative political talk has NOTHING to do with any economic policies. Liberalism almost exclusively means caring about social justice. You can be a full-on communist or a "taxation is theft" libertarian, but if you support LGBT rights or dislike racism, congratulations, you're now a liberal in current political parlance, at least in the corner of the world and political circles that this article is discussing.

You use "liberal" as an insult because you to you it means private property, freedom to choose your own job and where you live, etc. The far right uses "liberal" as an insult because to them it means "not a bigot".

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Words have different meaning for different people. You understand liberalism by social freedom thats fine by me, thats not how I define it and I am not necessarily talking in context of eastern europe or this article.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Why are you even making comments here if you're not talking in the context of this article or at least Ukraine?

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You might be a tankie if...

You use "libshit" unironically.

[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago

In the user's comment history.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hate liberalism and I will insult liberals, I dont care about your labels, this is just ad hominem you are engaging in

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I will insult

this is just ad hominem you are engaging in

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Every accusation is a confession.

Works with tankies, too. Which makes sense, given that they're just a coat of red paint away from fascists themselves.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I hope you grow past being 14 y.o. anarkkkkiddie

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As they say on TV, thank you, no further questions.