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Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College
(www.pewresearch.org)
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this post was submitted on 26 Sep 2023
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So instead we get minority rule. Soooooo much better when the small number of loonies get to derail a functional government with a temper tantrum that 'the masses' want.
It's a badly designed system, and claiming it's like this on purpose doesn't negate how bad the system is. Also, we should not be chained to ideas that came around 250 years ago when other people have improved on the idea and made it less shitty.
Not at all. We are ruled by the states.
The system is fine. It allows all states to have some say in the process.
Who gives a fuck about the states' vote? States are just containers for people, and an excuse that the minority loves to use to explain how they get to rule over majority.
The electoral college is an undemocratic and broken system that makes my vote in a small state worth more than your vote in a bigger state.
A vote is a vote, and only losers need to remove the vote from the masses to be able to win. It's literally the only reason there's been a Republican president since H.W., and it's no surprise they're desperate to keep around the undemocratic voting method that allows them to steal elections they didn't win.
Wow fascist much?
States are entities under the government with their own laws.
We are not a democracy fascist. We are a constitutional republic. The founding fathers had no interest in a rule by the masses nor do i.
Maybe you should learn the history of our government and why it was designed the way it was rather than pushing weird fascist ideology that states don’t matter and only the federal government counts.
We’d break as a nation quickly under your ideology.
Lol, you don't know what words mean and are just trying to sound cool. ProTip: just because you don't like something doesn't make it fascist.
But I would love to see your melted brain actually explain how 'every citizen having an equal vote' resembles fascistic tendencies like only protecting the in group, but that would require an actual understanding of fascism.
They also didn't want anyone other than landholding white men to vote, but we've realized that's a stupid idea. The founding fathers didn't give you a holy document to be reversed, they wrote a framework they expected us to modify.
Bold of you to think I don't understand why they did what they did and still think it's a bad system. Also, again with the uneducated claim of fascism.
And you really need to work on your reading comprehension, I said the states' votes don't matter, because I think every citizen should vote, not land.
Ahahaha, you clearly don't see how the nation is breaking down around us under the current system.
I full support only land owning people voting. I have no issue with that at all.
It’s obvious you don’t considering you didn’t understand what a stage is or does in our government.
I read your fascist take just fine. Why I called you a fascist.
LOL, of course the person who doesn't understand fascism is perfectly ok with implementing proto-facsist policies. You're all about the in-group protection and out-group punishment too aren't you, you pea-brained actual fascist.
It’s not fascist. It’s how we did it for a long time.
You really should learn American history and stop being a fascist.
"This is the way we've always done it" doesn't discount a practice from being fascist, you stupid fascist. If you actually knew what fascism was, you'd be able to make an argument why it isn't that isn't trivial to dismiss as a fallacy.
Appealing to history or authority isn't a real argument, its a crutch for the intellectually lazy who can't make a real argument. Its also hilarious given the various explicitly authoritarian/borderline fascistic beliefs you profess.
I am aware of what fascism is. It’s you.
Yes historical reasons is a valid reason. SMH. Do you know understand what a conservative is? You don’t know what a state is.
Lol, prove it. Make the argument on how I'm/my argument is fascistic. I'll wait.
You already proved it. Have a good night you little fascist.
Yep, you can't make the argument and are just blowing smoke, just like I said.
Man, its hilarious how obviously ignorant you are.
Reading this convo has given me a seizure, and I'm an Italian with grandparents who lived under the original fascist regime of Mr. Mussolini.
You don't understand what fascism is and, at the same time, you want to reintroduce fascism in your country by limiting the voting rights of people based on their economics.
Maybe it's you who should return to school to learn something, like reading and logical thinking.
Fucking fascists and their incapability to use the braincells they were born with
So you don’t want democracy?
God no. I want a constitutional republic. That’s what America is.
Personally I wish we’d have more restrictions around voting. The old days of property owners being able to vote is a good idea. I’m not a fan of the poor voting.
Ah cool go live in the woods then ya fuckin wank
Sorry I’m the right place. I live in a constitutional republic.
Lines on map can't rule. Only people can.