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Session is shutting down in 90 days if STF fails to reach its funding goals. (getsession.org)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by TacticalToothbrush@discuss.tchncs.de to c/privacy@lemmy.world

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We had hoped this day would never come, but Session has now entered its final 90 days of operation. If we are unable to reach our funding goal within this period, the Session Technology Foundation (STF) will be forced to shut down.

To date, the STF has received approximately $65,000 in donations. This is enough to maintain critical Session infrastructure for the next 90 days. We are extremely grateful for the support Session has received from the community, but unfortunately this is not sufficient to retain full-time developers. As a result, all paid staff and developers will have their final working day on April 9, 2026. After this date, some team members will continue on a primarily volunteer basis to help maintain Session until July 8, 2026.

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[–] voxel@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Look at the amount that Signal spends.

https://signal.org/blog/signal-is-expensive/

[–] lookingforanALFpolycule@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Their top 6 earners all get more than half a million per year and all of their infrastructure is hosted on Amazon and Google servers so it’s not really “signal” that’s expensive.

[–] voxel@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Infrastructure can't be run on thin air, Signal isn't peer to peer, so infrastructure is essential.

[–] lookingforanALFpolycule@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh yea not denying that they need servers. But do they really need to rent them from Google and Amazon instead of hosting their own? Seems like pretty poor use of donations.

[–] voxel@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

They talk about it in their blog post which I have linked, go read it.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well, when talking about server costs, Threema somehow has been running on a 5€ lifetime license and business customer subscribtions for over a decade.

While briar and simplex are peer to peer and have nearly no ops costs.

Sure, it can be made to be very expensive, but I'm arguing that doing so is a business/design decision.

Servers can help improve the UX, but are expensive. Threema for example, only stores media on their servers temporarely, so they have way lower storage cost with a small tradeoff in userfriendlyness (of having to migratethe old media files you want to keep when you get a new phone). And so on.

If your nonprofit only has 65k, don't hire multiple devs and provide nice-to-have features that lead to high ops expenses in servers and storage. It's called minimal viable prpduct for a reason.

[–] voxel@feddit.uk 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, but you're inherently wrong.

Well, when talking about server costs, (...)

We're not.

Threema somehow has been running on a 5€ lifetime license and business customer subscribtions for over a decade.

Most users doesn't even donate 1€ when using free messengers.

If your nonprofit only has 65k, don't hire multiple devs and provide nice-to-have features that lead to high ops expenses in servers and storage. It's called minimal viable prpduct for a reason.

They don't offer ANY "nice-to-have" features 😭 You can't even edit send messages, which I consider to be a basic reasonable feature (which is technically difficult to implement when having E2EE, etc. in mind)

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago

We’re not.

Huh? You linked me an article where server cost is the lions share of signal operation.