I'm tired of the way things are and am actually excited for BYD. They build really great electric vehicles and I saw one video where it charged up just as fact as refueling gasoline would be

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[–] Nils@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I hope they bring their electric buses too.

[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Don't we have a pretty good electric bus factory in Manitoba? I thought New Flyer is doing good cause most new bus here are electric.

[–] Nils@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

I am learning a lot from this thread, thanks for sharing. It seems that 1 in 3 buses in NA are from New Flyer.

Also, I like their proposition of having a centre median boarding platform. https://youtu.be/Xhw66RpevsM Some few decades ago, I heard about some cities solving bus traffic by using the centre of the street for public transport.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

BYD was building electric buses in Newmarket, Ontario. They were so shit, Toronto stopped using them and they shut down after lawsuits. This is what y'all can't wait for.

[–] Nils@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

I am not able to read the article. It only shows the headline for me.

I found an article with similar title that lists the reasons as:

Significant delays in obtaining replacement parts, taking up to 73 days for a single rear axle.
Poor quality of repair manuals and a lack of diagnostic tools in English.
Insufficient engineering support from BYD during operations.

Does that match the article you shared? Is there more to it?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The (small number of) TTC electric buses are BYD. They got built in Newmarket but I think the production stopped due to some issues. A larger scale attempt might be needed. :D That said, we might want to try that with sodium-ion batteries.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

the production stopped due to some issues

💩 was the issue.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-why-byds-first-manufacturing-foothold-in-canada-was-a-bust/

[–] Nils@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That is cool! I heard when they did the procurement a while ago, but I did not know what happened after. It is great to know that they were made here.

I think once we have plenty of buses (and other EVs) around, the battery recycling will catch up. Just like it happened with the lead-acid.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

the battery recycling will catch up.

For sure. That said, for applications where applicable, sodium-ion kinda makes recycling moot. There's "unlimited" supply of the input materials. CATL and some smaller factories just started production and it's already cheaper than LFP. I haven't checked if buses are suitable application but I think they should be.