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Friend, again, it was you that mentioned the deaths of protesters and called it bullshit. Not me. Not sure how many times I have to say that. None of your comments serve any purpose either, so why are you writing them? And we know about the civilian deaths because of Iranians reporting them before the internet was turned off and not because it's some baseless claim from the US. You are making a lot of effort to excuse your belittling of civilian deaths.
I'll give it one more try. Because you are missing something fundamental and I think its why you keep repeating a position I don't hold. You're stuck on it.
Do you understand that I'm talking about forming my morality based on the material outcome of my actions? Let me know if you don't understand this last sentence. It's really important. Because you are stuck on idealism and judging my opinion based purely on the moral idea.
You seem to be stuck in thinking of morality as separate from the material world. That's why you think I'm "belittling deaths" when I am not.
Maybe I can ask you a question to help you understand how I'm thinking. Because of you're this deep into a conversation Id guess you're tired of just saying "you are belittling deaths" over and over.
What is something I can reasonably do that will help the children you keep mentioning?
I care about the material outcomes of my actions. Not about being "considered moral" as an idea.
So, I, as someone that lives in the western world would like to know. What is something I can do? And, most importantly, what is the material outcome for the children in Iran based on that action.
An action can be something I physically go do. Or it can be as simple as an idea or position that I share with others.
Let me know. But try to keep it realistic. I am not capable of abandoning my family and going to Iran, etc. Maybe, use your own situation as a means to answer this question. What can YOU do? And what is the material outcome of your action?
Oh sure, I bet there is a hugely positive 'material outcome' from calling the death of people bullshit, but hey, whatever you have to tell yourself to justify a shitty opinion.
All you had to say was something like:
"My bad, should've worded it differently. I meant it doesn't justify the war"
or something of the sort. At this point it would've been better to not say anything.
But alas, here we are.