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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

As there are millions of examples of them finding culprits and getting it right. I may not agree with the punishments, but I think your argument breaks down outside of a very small close knit community of people who practice consensus decision making.

You can't just plop down community management without the culture to make it work. These tools are missing from most communities and would lead to as many negative results if not more.

We don't even need to create hypothetical examples of this because we already have many historical examples of community management gone wrong like the Salem Witch trials.

I think you need to seriously address this before you can shout community management as a panacea.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You can’t just plop down community management without the culture to make it work. These tools are missing from most communities and would lead to as many negative results if not more.

Well of course. Nothing will work right away if people aren't educated and empowered. But the tools are missing precisely because we have given them to the state. Thus to see this change, they must be returned to the community who can relearn to practice them.

We also have examples of community management going right, such as in Rojava or Chiaps where the people are the ones patrolling their streets, deciding on how to right wrongs collectively, and generally showing much better results than we have in the West.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Herein lies the problem, without community management taking over naturally it would be thrust artificially onto communities. You can't reasonably expect these skills to be learned naturally, this would require external education which would then require a lot of social capital to be successful.

Who is going to dismantle the state and remember that it has to be a slow gradual learning process for communities?

Also community management almost has to take place in a vacuum because when it bumps up against a state it quickly dissolves losing it power such as what happened in Rojava in the start of 2026 leading it to being incorporated into the Syrian state.