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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean I'm definitely biased as an engineering student, but I basically wanna do stateless anarchist industrial society, lmao. I think industrial technology can be incredibly liberatory if developed and used in horizontal, sustainable, ecologically respectful, and optional ways. E.g., precision medical devices, drug development, public mass transit, safe, reliable, and clean electrical power, electronic libraries, comfortable housing, the Internet, weather prediction, precision ecology, etc., under conditions of free association, equality, and worker-owned means of production.

I think that the "dirty" character of industry is a better reflection of the STEMlords that dominate the field than the real possibilities that industrial society can give us. Similarly its capitalist character is a consequence of who was in power (the capitalist class) when humanity figured out industrial technologies.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

You can have technology and environment. We don’t need millions of factories across the planet spewing countless shit into the ecosystem.

Anti-Civ/Green Anarchy isn’t AnPrim where we go live as cave men with nothing, it’s reassessing our relationship with production and choosing sensible uses focused on minimising harm.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Searching 'anti-civ' gives anprim results, and "Green Anarchy" gives a wiki page which largely associates the term with Deep Ecology (which shares most of the unpleasant implications of anprims) and... anprim ideology.

We don’t need millions of factories across the planet spewing countless shit into the ecosystem.

I mean the italicized portion, 1000% agree. And honestly, we can definitely cut down the number of factories by cannibalizing defense factories (i.e., rip them apart for useful stuff and burn the rest), although I honestly don't know what number of factories is reasonable, or if the number of factories is even a helpful metric.

Anti-Civ/Green Anarchy isn’t AnPrim where we go live as cave men with nothing, it’s reassessing our relationship with production and choosing sensible uses focused on minimising harm.

That's awesome and I agree we should do that, and thank you for making the distinction explicit. Honestly, I just want to see more anarchists in my engineering courses. Like I 1000% recognize that the big problems today (capitalism, racism, the State, colonialism, climate change) are social problems that don't have pure technological fixes...but technology is certainly gonna be a part of the solution.