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Do most Brits still think chav was/is an actual subculture? (lemmy.world)

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I remember an assignment we had was reading Chavs by Owen Jones, and based on that book it seems like sociologists agree that chav was never a subculture, it was the upper classes taking ordinary working class young people fashion and turned it into a made up, monstrous delinquent subculture to paint the working class people as bad or something. Owen Jones said it was not a subculture and nobody unironically identified as a chav. It was purely a classist insult.

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[–] TinyLittlePuni@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Those just sound like idiots who happen to dress in mainstream working class fashion trends. Not members of a subculture.

[–] heliotrope@retrofed.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Did I say anything about a subculture?

[–] TinyLittlePuni@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The title of the post is "Do most Brits still think chav was/is an actual subculture?"

[–] heliotrope@retrofed.com 1 points 5 days ago

Ah, but the conversation has moved past your initial question.