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I see this moon launch as an exorbitantly wasteful, nationalist project. No money for healthcare and housing, but plenty of money to boldly go where man has gone several many times before.

When I bring this up with liberal friends and family, they give me a sort of incredulous look and talk about how wonderful and scientific and non-political it is. I don't mind being the "you've gone too far left" guy, but you talk to the same people about military spending and they're right on board.

Is someone here able to diagnose my crankiness and explain why this is actually a good use of resources? (Will also accept echo-chamber validation and ways to use this to increase class consciousness, if offered.)

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[–] biscuit 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You're thinking backwards. Building colonies on the moon and ultimately Mars would require science investment in recycling materials, air, waste, oxygen, etc. Do you not see the potential benefits of that on earth?

These projects provide vast investments in science here on earth, including creating jobs for the scientific community worldwide. Do you not see the potential benefits of that?

NASA's budget is miniscule compared to how much you Americans pay for your wars. Iran has already blown through NASA's total budget for the Artemis programme (which began over a decade ago), in a war that's been going on for 2 months.

Nobody in NASA or the space community seriously believes in plans to colonise Mars to terraform it. If we could do that, we'd be technologically capable of fixing our own planet.

We wouldn't have gotten microwaves in the 20th century if we hadn't gone to the moon.

Stop these pessimistic reductive takes. This is a huge step for humanity to be visiting the moon again.

[–] Soot@hexbear.net 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The issue being that the reason we're running out of air and filling Earth up with waste is not a lack of science or investment.

We are far, far beyond capable of fully sustainable, high-standard living on a global scale with today's technology, we just choose not to do it. Because instead the global system prefers to concentrate wealth on extremely wealth individuals and expensive vanity projects, like this one.

I'm a huge fan of space missions, and inventing stuff this way, but this mission is about 80% vanity, and 20% science. If the launch was purely for science and explorations sake, I'd be in favour. But as it is, it's like burning a huge pile of coal to prove what a good country you are, but with the outward claimed justification it'll help us discover renewable energy sources.

We already solved the problem, this is just making it worse.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But we could just invest in science without going to the Moon. The Moon is utterly superfluous to the investment.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 2 points 22 hours ago

For real. We can do things in the ocean or inhospitable deserts or Antarctica or any other hazardous conditions here on earth without having to send thousands of pounds of stuff to keep people alive into space. We know we can already send people to the moon. This talk of building shit there is nonsense.