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They've said it since the '70s. Maybe instead of entrenching their theocratic dictatorship for decades they should be working towards a more collaborative and egalitarian future with their neighboring countries and cultures.
what else happened about then.....
And what happened before that? And before that? And before that? This is how all these discussions go. But you blame Israel for not "cozing up" to a regime that literally does not recognize their legitimacy and has done so for 50 years while it has also funded terror groups to attack them.
I'm sorry but there is not black and white here.
Israel has a long history of funding terrorism as well. In the 1950s, Zionists secretly performed terrorist attacks on Jewish synagogues and communities around the middle east. This was done in an effort to make them feel unsafe in Arab countries to promote migrations to the newly-formed country of Israel. Before this, Jewish people largely lived at peace alongside Muslims, as they were traditionally considered "People of the Book" due to their shared Abrahamic-religious background.
Furthermore, Netanyahu's government has a history of funding Hamas to prevent the more moderate Palestinian Authority from representing Palestinians. Up until Oct. 7, Netanyahu was funneling 35 million dollars a month to Hamas through Qatar, with over 1 billion dollars transferred in total. He would do anything to prevent a two-state solution, and was also desperate for a distraction from his 10-year long corruption investigation.
Iran is right not to recognize the legitimacy of the Israeli state, because it was recently created via a violent settler-colonial occupation culminating in a genocide. It's not black and white, but it isn't completely fucking gray either, and there are some parts of this that are black and white.
From the American Declaration of Independence:
Israel de facto governs the Palestinian people without their consent, depriving them of all rights and treating them as disposable. In this case where Israel has refused all attempts of the Palestinians to alter this arrangement the only path that remains to them is to abolish the Israeli state, as is their right. Israel does not have a right to exist and no other state does either. The existence of any state is a privilege derived from the consent of the governed.
Your right, there's tons of historical context here.
You act like this attitude twords the US and its allies are in a vacuum.
You act like Israel doesn't have nukes treating them as well, funding terror in the region themselves. Gaza and Lebanon come to mind.
Why should Iran cozy up to such a hostile nation?
They're not. There rooted in the blood spilled by those same countries.
If the US is hated, it's probably justified.
I'm not saying it isn't. I'm saying, and did say, not to lionize Iran just because you're mad at Israel and the US.
I can be mad at both, and still believe Iran is in the right to defend itself from American and Israeli imperialism first.
I can't support any state that has supported terrorism the way Iran has. There is no justification for that.
What about the american terrorism? Glossing over that?
What I'm pointing out here,
Is that Americans and Israels have been the terrorist for decades in that region. Assisinating generals they feel like, bombing schools, developing nukes, the list goes on so much more than Iran and its proxies. So o don't understand how you can primailry denounce the little guy, at the expense of the angry shark in the room.
Because there likely wouldn't be as much terrorism, if not for the decades of antagonist behaviours.
Nope.
look what you made me do!
So you are saying the us shouldn't have launched the campaign? Because that sounds exactly like how your responding as well. They're all terrorists, look at what you made me do......
What makes Iran terorists and the us not one?
Yes. I haven't said otherwise - y'all just assume I'm saying whatever the straw-man in your head has ready arguments for.
That said - terrorism is always the greater evil than military attacking military. You can justify war as "politics through other means" but when you start attacking non-combatant populations you're in a world of wrong. There is no justification for it. That was Iran's choice. That they fought back isn't (necessarily) wrong, but that they have chosen terrorism as their means is.
This isn't military attacking military. The US and Israel are bombing schools, universities, water desalination plants, power plants, police stations, and other civilian targets, along with those who attempt to negotiate. This is terrorism, and there is no justification for it.
You say that like the greatest terrorist organisation isnt the US military.
What I'm pushing agaisnt is who your letting define twrrosit, because to most west asia (and even east Asia), the terorista are the US military.
so US cant be terrorist because it has military org? and bunch of peasants and farmers rising up against imperialism is terrorism? lol you are in deep amrikkkan
such a stupid gotcha, would hate holocaust survivor jews for hating all germans or not?
Israel has no right to exist, its a literal nazi state, fuck you for defending its existence and fuck everyone else who does so