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A Boring Dystopia
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How is is legal to pronounce death without directly checking their pulse in person?
RNs can get the vitals that allows a pronouncement. I do it regularly for hospice folks and it certainly ain't my name on the death certificate. Having an RN verify vitals for an active code is a bit weird though. But so is running a code through telehealth.
Paramedics (at least in NJ) aren't allowed to pronounce, but they're what's called online care (maybe, it's online something), and so they feed vitals to a doc over the phone, and the doc says okay call it.
Medics can pronounce in the field in Florida for "injuries incompatible with life", think rigor mortis, decapatations, already rotting corpses, etc
That's fair and we can do that in Jersey as well (and I'm just an EMT). Obvious signs of mortality it was referred to as back in 2003 or 2004 when I first got my EMT.
Just look at the guy over zoom.