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Voting for a party guilty of participation in genocide, and a candidate who vowed "no change" from those genocidal policies, is not "the absolute minimum to combat fascism".
To the contrary, it is enabling fascism... and really, much worse things than simple fascism. It's just not enabling those things within the USA as much. So you're willing to inflict those evils upon people overseas if it preserves your privilege and comfort at home, and the privilege and comfort of those who you care for.
You are valuing the your own comfort and the comfort of members of your in-group as being higher priority (supreme) above the lives of other human beings. That's the only way to explain placing your own comfort and privilege over the literal ethnic-based mass-murder of other humans (and yes, ICE is a terrible American Gestapo under Trump, but it is still not remotely comparable to what the Zionazis have done in Palestine).
To reach such a conclusion, you must hold white supremacist values, at least to the extent that the values of the west are defined by the white ruling class. Yes, even if you are not white. You need to purge those from your mind.
And that's also not me insulting you. It's totally normal for someone who grew up (I assume) under American propaganda. It's incredibly subtle and incredibly effective.
I agree with the exact opposite of this.
In 2024 the choice of which candidate would lead us to fascism was obvious to anyone paying attention. The left in this country decided to take it's ball and go home, and now we're living through the consequences. The left does not deserve to walk away from this blunder without criticism.
Okay, so the left caused your candidate to lose. Aside from the fact that Holocaust Harris would've lost even if she received every single third party vote except RFK's, even including Libertarians who are usually more right-leaning, sure, let's go with that narrative anyway.
The left is the reason your candidate lost, because the left did not find your candidate worth voting for.
Sounds like you should listen to the demands of the left if you want to stop losing then. And we demand an end to all aid to genocidal Israel and no corporate campaign donors.
Otherwise, you can keep losing. You may view Dems as being an obviously-better option than Republicans. I do not, so if you do not convince me otherwise, I literally could not care less if your party continues losing.
Run better candidates if you want to win. That's how democracies work, right?
Tell me, what did you actually think would happen to Palestine if Trump won?
Secondly, of the two (Trump or Harris), which would be more open/vulnerable to political pressure from the left?
Be honest, use reason, tell the truth.
The same thing that would happen if Harris won: more death. I imagine Hamas also knows they were not going to win a military victory. The victory to be had for them is, I imagine, a moral one: exposing the moral vacuum at the heart of the American Empire (so Israel included). And in that, they have achieved a massive victory without a doubt.
It's disgusting that any Palestinian was killed regardless of administration, but that's the pragmatic reality until Israel ceases to exist. So the question has to be how to achieve that, and I think they've made massive strides towards it. And as for America, it's dying all on its own.
Capitalists are not vulnerable to political pressure from the left because capitalism is inherently contrary to the demands of real leftists. So, my answer to your second question is: neither. And you don't even have to take my word for it: my evidence is Biden refusing to end political aid to Israel and Harris pleading "no change" from that genocidal policy. I mean for fucks sake, Trump even pretended to reschedule cannabis before Biden did!
Look, if you truly can't tell the difference in policy between Republicans and Democrats, then yes maybe you shouldn't vote. One can only bring the horse to water.
I'm just sick of people giving me shit for attempting to stop fascism from taking over my country, when they themselves refuse to lift a finger to do it, people like this mouthbreather telling me "I'm glad you're suffering" when in real life we're all suffering. Like somehow all these people think the suffering the fascists cause is going to be confined to only those of us who voted democrat. So fucking frustrating, I have zero pateince for this shit, especially because the reason this shit is happening is because the left in this country refuses to fucking vote.
I'm serious. Why did Biden support the genocide? Because leftists refused to vote. Why did Trump send thugs to kidnapp people in the street? Because leftists refuse to vote. Why did Trump cut USID and thereby starve millions of children to death worldwide? Because leftists refused to vote. Why is did Trump invade Iran and start WWIII? Because leftists refuse to vote.
I just want to see leftists in this country fucking do something instead of standing around acting superior to everyone else.
What? I did vote. For Jill Stein.
Voting for democrats categorically is not "attempting to stop fascism" any more than supporting the Weimar Republic was "attempting to stop Nazism". They're weak, corrupt, feckless, and ineffectual. Their corporate-owned neoliberal politics and suppression of leftwing populism paves the way for fascism's inevitable rise through rightwing populism.
Didn't read the rest of whatever you said there. I'm not really interested in addressing your Blue MAGA meltdown.
Which is why Trump is now president. Good job bro.
Yeah I'm not suprised. Heaven forbid a leftists acknowledge criticism or some shit.
This is boring, we already did this
I was right and you were wrong then also.
Strong point, Blue MAGA
You think just like a conservative.
That's an odd way to admit you're less cool than a conservative.
Look son, you lost. I know it's hard to hear, but you're a loser. What you're doing now is just trying to get the last word is so you don't feel so pathetic.
Really, you need to come to terms with this about yourself, because if you keep spouting this stupid shit you're going to lose a lot more arguements in the future. Blocking you now. Bye bye.
P.S. I do this because I know it pisses you off.
ok son
Saying that people are valuing their own or their loved ones' "comfort and privilege" (which sounds like they value having brunch or something) rather than - in a lot of cases - personal safety, and that they hold white supremacist values, is going to come off as an insult no matter what.
I can live with that.
They value the abstract risk to their personal safety, and that of their loved ones, over the assured mass-murder of Palestinians. I stand by what I said.