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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You got to be a special kind of asshole if you’re buying a Tesla these days.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

And if you own one from before, the only responsible thing to do is sell it on the used market to reduce demand for their new cars. You might not get the price you want but come on. You could afford a Tesla; I’m not crying for your pocketbook.

Not only that, you sort of have to hate having money.

With the cyber trucks having shit glued on them all over the place the company just seems laughable.

If I'm putting down (potentially) luxury car money I better damned well have a luxury car.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

Their Q1 sales were actually up over last year. It's insane.

The same kind of pieces of shit that still use Twitter.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Or an Indian. They fucking love Tesla

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yeah it's not just Indians:

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In 2025:

According to the analysis, Tesla achieved loyalty rates of 63.6% among Asian households and 61.9% among Hispanic households. These figures exceeded national averages.

Favorability / loyalty have dropped across all groups over the past several years.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

That well predates Elon revealing himself to be what he is.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm in the GTA. Asians here. They fucking love Tesla's.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Random question: GTA? Greater Toronto Area?

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

or Norwegian, First and third biggest selling car there

or Australian

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Tesla has 35% market share in Norway.

France saw an increase in Tesla registrations by 203% year over year.

Sweden had a 144% increase in registrations. Denmark had a 96% increase.

In the US, the core demographic remains white male, ~48 years old, with a household income exceeding $140,000, particularly in conservative states (Texas/Florida).

Part of the problem is that competition is still lacking in many ways especially when it comes to charging infrastructure.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I have to say, I still see Tesla as the leader by far here in the us. And given how price of cars has skyrocketed, teslas are now also “affordable”. There’s finally some choice but not much, half of the choice was just cancelled, and most are not good.

Rivian is our best choice for the next compelling EV, but R2 cost significantly more than Tesla.

  • A lot of people online like the Equinox and it’s inexpensive, but poor efficiency, horrible software and no CarPlay. Also I’ve never seen one. GM cars in general don’t do well in my part of the US so it would be challenge to get people to see they exist
  • Lucid looks great on paper and I’m excited to see their mass market vehicles in a year or two, but they e really been struggling. I hope the saudis continue to see it through
  • Hyundai/Kia have been kicking ass on choice but low efficiency and still haven’t kicked their historical reputations for poor quality and easy to steal
[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I hope the R2 works out well. I'm not planning on getting a new car in the near future, so by the time I do, it should have all it's kinks ironed out and be a great towing vehicle for a light camping trailer.

[–] onlyhalfminotaur@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The competition is not lacking at all if you've been paying attention. And literally every EV brand can use Tesla chargers now.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Depends how much the average consumer is paying attention. Many probably don't know that every EV can use the Tesla chargers now.

The competition here is certainly constrained. Most car manufacturers are making less EVs due to decreasing overall demand and expirarion of federal EV tax credits.

The real competition is on the other side of the Pacific. Europe and Canada have accepted that on some level while the US continues to artificially prop up its EV market ex-China.

There are legitimate concerns don't get me wrong. But the US won't be able to hide from a more dynamic and competitive product forever.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

the US continues to artificially prop up its EV market ex-China.

It’s not even that: a little protectionism is normal trade policy globally. This would be fine, if it were temporary and if there was a goal to develop the domestic industry.

The real problem is the combination of protectionism, while also rejecting the technology change and shrinking down to the home market. The protectionism will stop at some point. Realistically it has to. But when it does, American legacy manufacturers will find themselves struggling to sell buggy whips to a world that sees them as museum displays. We’re trying to milk a few more years out of the legacy technology at the cost of totally ignoring the future

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This is absolutely true.

Even with the advent of the Industrial Revolution, Britain initially struggled to compete with the sheer quality and cost-effectiveness of Indian hand-woven fabrics.

They instituted a 100% tariff on importation of Indian fabric to support their nascent mechanized textile manufacturing.

This allowed them to hone the machinery by creating a sandbox to grow their new expertise in. The quality could not match what was produced by hand but the sheer volume and efficiency could easily outdo manual methods.

Over time as they gained political influence, they were able to point guns at and break the thumbs of the right people in India effectively eradicating Indias domestic textile industry.

They then forced Indian markets to accept British cloth with no tariff, making that consumer sandbox bigger.

Minus the colonial / coercive economics at the end there, this is an example of Britain using tariffs very effectively to grow their own industry while taking down a global leader in textiles (one that even the Romans wrote of 1500 years prior).

May well have played out the same without supportive policy, but the protectionism certainly helped them grow their own industry faster and the violent / coercive colonial element helped them remove a traditional, higher quality though analog/manual competitor sooner.

What America is doing is more of a dying empire vibe. Protection for the sake of clinging to the old and familiar way, with no plan or strategy to adapt for the future.