So many western Marxists suffer from a political malady: McDonald’s Marxism. You look at another nation patiently and strategically navigating the existential threats imposed upon it by US empire and whine like a spoiled brat when they don’t immediately go for broke and take an insanely stupid suicidal escalatory path because YOU want total armed revolution and you WANT IT NOW and you DEMAND that someone else MAKE IT FOR YOU and you DON’T CARE if it’s not currently available at this location or if it’s a seasonal menu item or if the soft serve machine is broken, YOU WANT IT and therefore THEY SHOULD HAVE IT and if it takes more than FIVE MINUTES you will throw a tantrum and get so angry that you SHIT YOUR PANTS. Shut the fuck up! Shut the fuck up!!!
If you live in the imperial core and you don’t like what decisions a certain anti-imperialist government makes under the duress of your genocidal racist rapist government, you don’t get to publicly criticize them. I’m sorry, you just don’t! It’s shameful, you should feel gross and ashamed by it! Shut up and organize. Learn your neighbor’s name. Find out what who’s hurting YOUR community and organize with them to struggle against that oppressor. If you’re doing anything right, you’ll start to see how fucking hard it actually is, how many compromises you’ll have to make, how many sacrifices you’ll have to make, how many risks you’ll have to take - and even then, you’ll still be risking just a tiny FRACTION of the risk you demand of communists in the periphery in order for them to remain compliant with your ridiculous standards of ideological purity.
And btw, everyone's favorite squirrel reached the peak of this brand of western chauvinism back in June 2025, where they said with utmost certainty that once Ayatollah Khamenei was martyred Iran would immediately fall into a Balkanized failed state which is why they had to escalate to total war NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW. They ranted for days about this, screaming that the window for major countermeasures was permanently closing and if they didn't establish deterrence RIGHT THEN by closing the Strait and bombing Israel and GCC countries' vital infrastructure, the US would strike and Iran would be FINISHED. They even had the gall to call Iran's strategic patience "suicidal".
What we know now, however, is that Khamanei's martyrdom precipitated the very conditions in which Iran's recent historic military achievements became possible. And while we will never know what was going on in his head at the time, judging by his actions and how he decided to spend his final days, it seems like Khamenei may have known this to be true! Contrary to zei_squirrel's arrogant, prescriptive, Henny Penny apocalyptic prognostications, Iran did not immediately implode into anarchy upon Khamenei's martyrdom: they exploded with rage, unified across every community squirrel insisted were hopelessly divided, and struck back at the perfect moment with remarkable precision on every front. They waited as long as they did because they needed this exact level of escalation from the US and Israel to have casus belli to strike back. Iranian leadership clearly knew they were held to a far different standard than almost any other country (even by many of their own citizens), and that in order for western vassals, European imperialists, and ambivalent allies to do what Iran needed them to do (or not do), something truly beyond the pale would have to happen to them. They couldn't simply respond with proportionate force back then, despite having every right to. Iran would need something bigger to unite their people around the common cause of defending the nation, and a situation where NATO imperialist partners would have no pretense that could justify them joining the fray. So they had to be strategic. They had to be patient.
That's right: Iran is where it is now not because they abandoned strategic patience, but rather BECAUSE of strategic patience. They prepared decades to be ready for this moment, whilst knowing something cataclysmic would have to happen to them before being able to finally shift the balance. This is a kind of wisdom, discernment, self-restraint, and patience that the vast majority of us raised and miseducated in the west lack - and I do not exclude myself from this indictment! We in the belly of the beast are intentionally surrounded by distraction and programmed from birth for instant gratification. Even when we are able to think critically about the best possible course of action, we often lack the self-control to build, to plan, and to WAIT for the right time to act. Thank God Iran has strategically patient people carrying out the Ramadan War, and not terminally online armchair experts with irritable, impulsive western dispositions!
We don't need to have a conversation, I'm extremely familiar with the topic and all its arguments. I simply sit quite firmly on the side that their do nothing international policy is wrong and will lead to being isolated as every other anti-imperialist in the world is systematically eliminated until they are all that's left. It will become increasingly obvious over time that it is completely necessary for their survival.
Considering China is supporting Iran and Iran is pummeling US bases in the most geostrategic region in the world, they aren't doing "nothing", they're clearly supporting partners, and funding development and infrastructure in the global south
This is all just realpolitik. It has nothing to do with what I complain about, which is their lack of material support for communists.
You argue that they fund these development and infrastructure projects to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars but you never stop to question what communist parties and movements around the world would look like if given even a fraction of that support.
This to me reads as Iran, which is receiving support right now. They're also supporting Cuba during the blockade, they could be doing that more and supporting Venezuela more too but it's really far away from them and next to the US, so it'd probably be considered a massive escalation and risk direct confrontations. And it would also isolate them diplomatically more, as it'd be framed as eastern imperialism everywhere.
I do wish they'd do more though, and I only hope that they take bigger risks as the western empire decays. In the meantime their development helps combat neocolonialism which weakens imperialism and is massive for the global south
The support iran is receiving amounts to selling them equipment and some sternly worded letters in the UN.
Come the fuck on, they aren't even "supporting" Cuba. They backed down on the oil they were going to send. Switching instead to just food and medicines.
You agree that they're not doing enough then. Their support for actually existing socialism is nearly non-existent when you really look at what is materially being done.
Ok but they'll gain literally communist allies with each country that flips. Their enemy is practicing real imperialism and their allies are disappearing with each country the enemy flips.
This is ultimately just the conversation I said I didn't need to have, because it's always going to read like this. I simply disagree. China are certainly doing well for themselves right now, but their internationalism with socialists is nearly non-existent.
No. They gave them tech, intelligence, access to their satellites, etc. They're as involved as they can be without being a formal party in the conflict.
On the contrary, imperialism keeps growing weaker and many African countries see China as an important partner for development and independence away from austerity and neocolonialism.
There is no evidence for this. It is a belief among online circles, the evidence isn't there though.
Not really. Europe and the US is as involved as it can be in Ukraine without being a party in the conflict. China's hands-off attitude is dictated by their position on non-interference, not by doing as much as is possible.
Their missiles were much less effective at targeting before because they relied on GPS, which is controlled by the US. The fact that they were able to hit everything even with their oldest missiles seems to indicate that they did in fact transition to using BeiDou.
Goodbye