for context I assumed the graph and headline were both pulled from a piece of journalism where the epistemic standards are higher than a casual internet forum; I don't intend to apply high epistemic standards in a context where it is inappropriate, I just want a link to the original source they got the claim and graph from so that I can explore from there.

Sorry it came across as aggressive, that wasn't my intent at all - I thought what I was asking was entirely reasonable.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think I know why that happened.

citation for claim that it's the longest-dated climate dataset?

This comes off a bit curt, which can be read as a challenge. I don't typically ask for citations unless I'm implying the other person either doesn't have them or has bad information. It's almost always an attack on their character.

I'm just musing from the sidelines, by the way, don't take this as a lecture:

This is actually what the social function of filler words like 'please' and 'thank you' are for. They provide a base level of politeness that, much like a tone-tag, shapes the way the rest of the message is meant to be received. Sort of similarly, a question like "Is this really the longest-dated record? Do you have a citation?" shifts focus away from the person and toward validity, making the citation just a matter of course.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

oo, thanks - this is helpful; sometimes I am writing things too quickly and too to-the-point, so I think it's entirely a fair criticism that I came across as challenging when instead I meant to come across more as curious and wanting more information than dismissive.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

Of course :)

I wasn't really sure if I was being helpful or not, so I'm glad it was of some use, haha.