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We either believe women or we don't, turning a blind eye because it's "your guy" is liberalism
No gods means no gods
I don't know anything about it. I'm asking the question because I want honest opinions not spun by corporate media. I don't have enough knowledge of Chavez to call him "my guy" in the first place, but when I do dig into his history, I want to do so with clear eyes
Sorry didn't mean to offend. The reason I put "your guy" in quotes was to separate the concept from this specific example. It didn't come across clearly.
Caesar Chavez is not was was never "our guy". Union leaders don't automatically deserve leftist loyalty and in fact leftists should be especially critical of these "leaders" and what they do with their influence over the proletariat. Chavez wasn't even close to leftism and Communists should feel zero loyalty to this pos
Exactly. Unionism isn't the end all be all, especially under a liberal society, it's just an important tool to push for better working conditions and to spread class consciousness. In fact, unionism can very often be counter revolutionary or reactionary, because they can be easily hijacked/compromised by said forces. Also, a union can be created by reactionaries and used to make themselves look like they legitimately care about working conditions and rights.
It's a good way to look at them that I often forget (although I shouldn't considering people that look like me were kept out of the original trade unions in the US).
Unions are just a tool, another way to organize the working class. They are just like tenant unions or political parties, or any other organizational thing, they can be good or bad.