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[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Through that lens, being the person that knowingly votes for some niche candidate that they know isn't going to win any election against those two, knowing full well that by doing that you're making it that much easier for the Christofascists to scrape out a win and continue pushing this morality horseshit on the people...no, you don't get a pass. Not anymore.

So when do we hold the democrats accountable for being openly detestable, if not when the they've handed the whole country over?

Our only chance at this not getting worse is a likeable candidate. We know democrats are committed to never running one.

What's the answer here?

Yes, the Democratic party running a true populist is the answer sure. We all know that's not going to happen. They're going to continue to eek out loses and enjoy ongoing campaign funding and unaccountability.

This, what we have today, is literally their whole platform.

When do we hold them accountable for that? Is is still too soon?

[–] Angrydeuce@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So when do we hold the democrats accountable

When weve got the Christofascists in jail where they fuckin belong.

If someone comes at me with a gun while someone else is trying to set my house on fire, im going to focus on the dude with the gun, then deal with the fire. Theyre both a threat, but one is more of a threat than the other.

What you guys are basically wanting to do, to continue the metaphor, is go running around trying to find the hose while youre being shot at. And you know, thats fine, you do you, player. But dont act like its not completely natural and justifiable if most people, like me, would put their energy into stopping the bullets before giving even half a shit about the fire. The fire will have to be dealt with once the bullets stop. The fire will be dealt with, but there are bigger threats right now.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think we're mostly on the same page, you just can still trust a Democrat, I guess?

Let's extend your analogy, though: the Democrats are shooting too, just not directly at me, at this moment. There's plenty dead at their hands.

I still might rally behind a Democrat to stop an authoritarian, one more fucking time.

And I might not.

We did this dance.

Democrats do not stop the shooting.

I am strongly inclined to trust a total stranger over an established Democrat.

I am not alone in that.

Even if a Democrat cared to save any of us, I do not believe that the Democratic party has the remaining influence to make any difference.

The Maga crowd got something right: the average Democrat politician is spineless, broken and unwilling or unable to disobey orders from a secret cabal of pedophiles.

If we could wake the Maga types up, they might realize the dumb fucks they're worshipping are part of the same pedophile ring.