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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't we all just try to get along?

That's a bit hard when we're having our rights taken away. But sure, the biggest issue is that the folk defending trans people aren't doing it in a polite enough way for your sensibilities.

[–] quantumlover@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

So do you think you're helping people understand, by being jerks and finger pointing every time someone doesn't 100 percent agree with every single thing you say? (Not YOU specifically, I'm talking some of the more angry, extreme people)

On Lemmy, just asking "Why?" gets people brigaded and yelled at.

Hey, you do you. I don't care one way or the other. People can keep on doing screenshots and fingerpointing and yelling...but it won't change minds or hearts doing it that way.

I've been on Lemmy long enough to realize that most on Lemmy don't want to have nuance, or useful conversation. People here LIKE being mad.

Extremism is what brought most to Lemmy in the first place. Most LIKE the echo chamber. It will accomplish nothing though.

So hey, go about being mad, getting mad, and yelling. That won't change opinions and that's not the goal anyway.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, the real issue isn't the fact that trans people are being excluded, the thing we need to talk about is how a trans person didn't talk about their exclusion in a way you were comfortable with.

I've been on Lemmy long enough to realize that most on Lemmy don't want to have nuance, or useful conversation. People here LIKE being mad.

There is a world wide growing movement against trans people. We have had our drivers licenses and passports taken away, we've been excluded from sports, we've had our protections against violent and sexual crime weakened and removed, we've had whole governments campaign on their desire to attack us.

I personally live in a country that has escaped the worst of it, but even so, do you know that I legally can't enter the US? Not that I'd want to, but it would literally be impossible for me to provide ID that matches their expectations. And if I was let in anyway because some random person didn't realise I was trans, I would face imprisonment if they identified that I'm trans.

Fuck nuance.

[–] quantumlover@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I personally live in a country that has escaped the worst of it, but even so, do you know that I legally can’t enter the US? Not that I’d want to, but it would literally be impossible for me to provide ID that matches their expectations.

The US doesn't ban trans people or gay people from entering. So what's the actual reason that would you be banned from entering US?

Fuck nuance.

Which proves my point I was making. You don't want nuance. I don't care the reasons, my point stands: you don't care about nuance.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

They ban people whose identity documents don't match their assigned sex at birth (ie, me). All of my documents list me as female. Birth certificate, passport, ID card etc.

So if I declare that I'm trans, they deny me a visa, because my documents don't match their transphobic guidelines. And if I don't declare that I'm trans, and they let me in, then they can hit me for entering the country with "fraudulent" documentation if they later identity me as transgender.

Here's a breakdown of how it works https://www.huschblackwell.com/newsandinsights/new-visa-rules-target-transgender-individuals-considerations-for-employers-and-educational-institutions

my point stands: you don't care about nuance

The irony being here, you aren't interested in nuance either. You've got your line in the sand, and it doesn't matter how much exclusion, harm or bigotry you see, how explicitly exclusion from sports is shown to be a wedge issue to normalise exclusion of trans people from other levels of society, your opinion won't change.