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why are you coming up with fascist ideas to me then?
if you are on western europe, you likely just need to look closer with few exceptions.
what are those fascist ideas? You are the one that is continuously telling me I am a fascist, an abuser, an evil terrible person. The only thing I said at the start of the conversation with you was that my country was a western country and not a slaver country. It is like this simple fact is imploding your limited view of the world.
imperialism is fascist and it's diminishing, justification and denial is the main way in which western europeans sell themselves as beacons of democracy while demolishing the rest of the world.
if you are western you collect the spoils of slavery, with very few exceptions. stop struggling against this fact.
Then I guess I am one of those exception then. Not sure you would agree, but the only western countries that qualify to me are the US, the UK, France, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain and Portugal. To a lesser extent also Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland and Germany.
That keeps lot of western countries out. Austria, Hungary, Croatia,Slovenia, Italy, Greece, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Norway, Finland, Iceland, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Australia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia.
Imperialism is not fascist. Imperialism was born much earlier than fascism was.
most of the countries you mentioned as western are part of the global south. brazil, argentina, mexico and some of eastern europe to a lesser extent.
argentina currently has an us-aligned fascist in power deregulating their markets for foreign extraction, the situation in the majority of latin america is not very different rn. mexico has us-backed cartels fucking shit up to pressure sheinbaum after a pathetic attempt for a coup. brazil might get another openly fascist president soon, mostly because of us social media bombarding them with propaganda.
finland norway germany and italy are very much engaging in the unequal trade enabled by imperialism i mentioned. eg. how italy owns the electrical grid in some places in south america and charge high prices for their actually cheap energy.
i'm not well versed in canadian imperialism but i hear really bad things about them.
oh and imperialism wasn't invented by fascists, but very much adopted by them as one of their defining traits.
If your standard for imperialism is “some companies from a state are operating in another state under that state regulated market” then every state is imperialistic: Italy’s Trenitalia manage trains in Spain and the UK, Spain bank Santander operate as a major player in Italy, Germany Volkswagen operate factories in Mexico, China and Brazil. China battery CATL operates in Spain. Brazil aerospace Embraer has factories in Portugal.
But is interesting your shift from “your country is a slaver country” to “your country’s companies operate subsidiary in other law regulated markets”.
For example, Enel (Italy) operate in South America with concessions that can be revoked by the country if Enel does not follow the law, while prices are not decided by Enel. Electrical grid is a natural monopoly, so prices are decided by government entities (ANEEL for Brazil, CREG for Colombia, CNE for chile). See for example this: https://legal.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/chile-fines-italys-enel-19-million-over-2024-power-outages/117472660 “We hope that not just Enel, but all companies, see that they need to comply with regulations and understand that in Chile nobody is above the law”
And sorry to reiterate but fascism and imperialism are not the same. While both have an affinity for capital market, the core tenant of fascism is militarism, political violence, suppression of media and suppression of the individual to serve the state. State that are fascist are Russia for example, with other arguing that Hungary is becoming a fascist regime as well. The current US administration has traits that I would link with fascism as well. Other states with strong nationalism are North Korea, Myanmar, Eritrea.
my standard for imperialism is countries fucking us over and downplaying it as "just business"
or like how you just come to say shit you know nothing about countries you know nothing about instead of asking the actual people living there.
enel owns brazilian infrastructure and charges exorbitant rates for cheap energy. we can't get rid of if because our politicians were bribed by you and it doesn't matter that i explain it over and over to you as someone literally born and living in these countries that literally sees this shit happen daily. FUCK ENEL, if they are so great how about YOU give them total control over your energy grid.
it's no wonder the empire leader you guys elected is literally 21st century hitler. i'm tired of talking to nazis and other assorted garbage in this thread, bye.
Wait, you are not seriously telling me you are from Brazil aren't you? Brazil, a Western country!
A corrupt country that is accused of exploitation of other countries like Angola (via BNDES loans), or Bolivia (with Petrobras), or Mozabique (with both Vale and the ProSavana project).
That would be the funniest thing ever
lol coming back real quick just to say that one was funny.
i'm sure you know everything about it. you know, by the masterfully nazi and completely accurate way you are trying to lecture a south american about south america.
Hahahahahahahaahaaaa,
Brazil, the country that imported more slaves then any other countries in the Americas. How could I have missed this.
I cannot take you seriously anymore 😂 You lost the insignificant shred of credibility you fought so hard to maintain.
Your country has bought more or less 5.5 million more slaves than mine.
Feel free to continue the name calling. From someone as hypocritical as you is like a medal.
riddle me this, mr. nazifascist: which continent was ruling over south america at that time again, i forgot? 🤔
not calling you names, btw, just being descriptive.
Brazil abolished slavery 63 year after independence because of British pressure to do so (can you imagine? The British telling you that is too much!). The last nation in the western world to abolish slavery. After the US. For all intents and purposes, the responsibility of Brazil is exactly on par, if not worse on all metrics, than the responsibility of the US. If you condemn the US you must do the same or more for Brazil.
Just being descriptive. My country abolished slavery 650 years before yours 🤣 and you were calling me a slaver 😂 and talking about me enjoying the spoils of slavery 🤪 your entire agricultural economy is the result of slaves being worked to death. While Brazil was an independent free country!