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The threshold the Israeli authorities have set for the use of a nuclear weapon is dangerously low.

Israeli strategic thinking has long been shaped by the fear of an existential threat. Unlike most nuclear states, whose doctrines revolve around deterrence or competition with other nuclear powers, Israel’s security narrative is rooted in the belief that the country could face destruction if a war turns decisively against it. Israeli leaders have repeatedly framed regional conflicts — from the wars of 1967 and 1973 to present confrontations with Iran and armed groups in Gaza and Lebanon — as struggles for national survival. That mindset matters enormously when nuclear weapons are involved.

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[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't want Iran or Israel to have nukes.

The point is one country having a nuke pushes others to have a nuke.

Which direction does Israel move us in when they physically have them now?

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip -2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Is it a good thing that the second country gets a nuke as well?

In this case, Iran is ruled by a doomsday cult theocracy where let's say 10% of the population controls the other 90% as cattle. They honestly believe that their only purpose in life is to defeat Satan (literally translated into Israel and the US by their scholars) and then they can literally go to heaven and party like it's '99

Now you can say a lot about Israel, and I'm going to repeat that I don't want them to have nukes, but the comparison between a democratic Israel and doomsday cultist Iran is just...

A slight but very important bit of a difference that a lot of lemmings have lost sight of after seeing, sadly, too much videos of Palestinian toddlers being blown to smithereens

[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Its a bad thing for any country to have nukes. Period. Especial a country with such reckless nuclear policy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Israel has nukes. so if you were Iran and Israel had nukes, what would you do? Would you be more or less likely to pursue a nuke?

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Well if I were Iran, I'd declare that my religious doctrine is and always has been a sham, only used to oppress and murder innocent people since the dark ages up untill today, declare that all people should be treated equal regardless of gender, sexual preference or religion, repent for my past sins in any way possible and organise free and fair elections for the people of Iran.

Building a nuke would rank very low

[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So because Iran is an oppressive and religious state they wouldn't build a nuke?

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip -1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They would. And it's in the interest of the world that they get stopped

[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

What do you mean by stopped? Do you mean to say we should go to war with them?