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[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That article you linked seems to be saying that palm oil is actually really good?

It says that it is a major driver of deforestation because people are tearing down trees to grow more of it because it's a very useful and versatile oil.

It later says that switching away from palm oil isn't a solution because palm oil is actually such an efficient crop that if you used something else the amount of land needed to produce enough oil would drive far more deforestation.

The article is a call for more regulation on deforestation, not a call to not use palm oil. It in fact almost argues the opposite.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's not just deforestation, especially in Orangutan habitats that are endangered. They are also rife with forced labor, ie slave labor. They lure desperate foreigners with promises of good jobs, baiting and switching them with a life of slavery doing hard, very hard labor, including kids. The families can sometimes bail them out by paying several thousand dollars, a lot of money to these impoverished bangladeshis and Indians and the like.

Many of the desparate migrants that can speak english well are now sold to chinese gangs to run romance scams from slave compounds, a 40 billion dollar a year industry just in S. Asia they figure now, pig butchering and the like.

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For sure. But the problem isn't palm oil itself, which seems like something of a miracle plant when compared to other sources of vegetable oil. It's that the supply chain for it is rife with abuse. Similar to coffee, or honestly, most things that are harvested predominantly in poorer countries with less oversight.

But, like coffee, it seems there are organizations that certify certain palm oil suppliers as "cruelty free," so it's probably better to try and hunt those out in favor of foregoing palm oil entirely, which seems like a pretty incredible product otherwise.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Even aside from environmental impacts, palm kernel oil is actually really bad for your cholesterol levels. It’s used as a filler in a lot of foods (many peanut butters, for example).

[–] Jack@lemmy.ca -1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

If you decide not buy the omnicidal product because palm oil is an ingredient, that's good.

Unfortunately only a tiny fraction of people are ethical. The rest are not just unknowingly buying products containing palm oil, but are actively choosing to speed-run us towards a mass-extinction event.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago

It grows great after you clear cut a very specific type of forest thats full of endangered stuff.

The oil itself is great.