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[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think the Taliban 'fell out of a coconut tree', as one of your politicians used to say? It is a successor to the Hezbi Islami, Haraqat Inqilab Islami and other factions of the Mujahideen. These were funded and armed by the US to destabilise the Soviets, with zero thought going into what would happen if a country's government is weakened and religious zealots let loose with weapons and cash. (This is not to absolve Pakistan's ISI, by the way. They wanted a weak and divided Afghanistan, and have helped various shady groups over the years.)

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think the Taliban ‘fell out of a coconut tree’, as one of your politicians used to say? It is a successor to the Hezbi Islami, Haraqat Inqilab Islami and other factions of the Mujahideen.

"Um, aktually, the Taliban is the successor to the Islamist groups it literally fought a brutal civil war against."

Your intellect is truly frightening.

These were funded and armed by the US to destabilise the Soviets, with zero thought going into what would happen if a country’s government is weakened and religious zealots let loose with weapons and cash.

"if a country's government is weakened"

I love how casually you gloss over the genocidal Soviet occupation as implicitly some form of harmless stability, but what should one expect from campist bootlickers?

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

the Taliban is the successor to the Islamist groups it literally fought a brutal civil war against.

Yes. The Taliban was a faction (well, a couple of factions) of the Mujahideen that then fought a civil war against various other factions of the Mujahideen.

I love how casually you gloss over the genocidal Soviet occupation

Genocidal? Taraki and Karmak were not perfect. They tried to change things too quickly, and angered many traditionalists and rural groups. But there's a bit of a difference between 'repressive' or 'harsh' and genocidal. It's the difference between, say, Saudi Arabia and Israel. Anyway, back to my criticism:

The US funded and armed a bunch of ultra-religious nutjobs to fight a government which, while far from perfect, had enacted reforms, protected the rights of women, and maintained a balance between the various tribes. It is not hard to predict what would result if that government collapsed, and, in fact, that is exactly what happened. Are all US military experts dumb? Or did they simply not care? Either way, they destroyed a country.

And then, of course, they repeated the same 'mistake' in Iraq, Libya and Syria. At this point, it is difficult to call it a mistake. Perhaps oil companies were involved.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes. The Taliban was a faction (well, a couple of factions) of the Mujahideen that then fought a civil war against various other factions of the Mujahideen.

Again, ignoring that the Taliban was formed largely by Pashtun religious students from Pakistan who were too young to have been involved in the Mujahideen.

Genocidal? Taraki and Karmak were not perfect. They tried to change things too quickly, and angered many traditionalists and rural groups. But there’s a bit of a difference between ‘repressive’ or ‘harsh’ and genocidal. It’s the difference between, say, Saudi Arabia and Israel. Anyway, back to my criticism:

Fucking lmao. Killing 10% of Afghanistan's population is just 'harsh'.

The US funded and armed a bunch of ultra-religious nutjobs to fight a government which, while far from perfect, had enacted reforms, protected the rights of women, and maintained a balance between the various tribes. It is not hard to predict what would result if that government collapsed, and, in fact, that is exactly what happened. Are all US military experts dumb? Or did they simply not care? Either way, they destroyed a country.

Did you forget that US aid to Afghanistan didn't even start until the Soviets invaded to prop up their puppet government, which had failed of its own accord, not 'maintained a balance between the various tribes'?

Fuck off, tankie.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 hours ago

Again, ignoring that the Taliban was formed largely by Pashtun religious students from Pakistan who were too young to have been involved in the Mujahideen.

Heard of this guy called Mullah Omar? Google that name.

Fucking lmao. Killing 10% of Afghanistan's population is just 'harsh'.

Any evidence for this claim?

which had failed of its own accord

Again, evidence? The Afghan government was beating the terrorists even after the Soviets left, so on what basis had they 'failed'?