You could, I don't know, use an open source note taking app? I mean, it's not like obsidian has some unique and unmatched capabilities ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

What is a plaintext (non-database) md editor that had wikilinks, LaTeX, back links, tags, PDF export, properties and dataviews, and a plugin community? Plus it needs an android app and desktop app that can be synced (even just via syncthing) seamlessly.

I am always open for switching!

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

If you drop the plaintext requirement (which IMO is anachronistic, if not for the necessity to fend against a potentially turning hostile developer in a close-source set-up), you may find https://triliumnotes.org/ liberating.

If you must stick to the "notes as plain text files" paradigm, siyuan is better than obsidian in about every aspect, and logseq in other, more niche ones. Trilium is better than them all (IMHO), being the only one that does "note as data" correctly and efficiently (you don't have the same data model divide like seen in notion between notes and databases).

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

https://joplinapp.org/

Seems interesting

Im a VSCodium kind of guy myself

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Joplin is reasonably good as long as you don't use so much metadata to keep things organised. It's also pretty rigid, and hence limiting. If you want something with the superficial simplicity of joplin, but that would scale up to your needs, I recommend giving https://triliumnotes.org/ a good look.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Vscodium for notes, interesting.

I looked into joplin before obsidian actually, but it is much more of a standard note taker, not good for zettelkasten sort of notes (link and tag focused)

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

The silence is deafening, because there isn’t a FOSS program that comes close to Obsidian’s functionality. This isn’t the first time I’ve seen someone drop the “lul just use FOSS instead” line to garner upvotes, when literally no FOSS alternative exists. There are some FOSS programs that come close in some regards, but none of them do everything Obsidian does and support multiple platforms.

Lemmy has an obsession with FOSS (for good reason) but that means many users basically try to act like FOSS vegans. They’d use six different (and largely incompatible) FOSS programs just to scratch the surface of what a closed-source program can do. And their hackles start to raise if you ever point out that there aren’t FOSS alternatives for everything.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

ok, but there's not much substance to your comment besides unsubstantiated "zealotry" towards obsidian and some general hot takes against lemmy and the FOSS community through which it emerged.

Maybe you could start listing out a few aspects and features of obsidian that you deem so important and unique, and I'm sure that you may discover a few very compelling alternatives.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm all set with https://triliumnotes.org/ . It's not just a more versatile and capable note taking app, it's also one that I can deploy simultaneously "local first" and "as a web service", so my notes are reachable everywhere (even where I'm not allowed to install the heavy client).

[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm an Obsidian user myself, but I have heard good things about Logseq

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

The silence of two hours ago lol

Chill brother. Like i get it, and FOSS advocates should lead with meaningful alternitives first imho, but there definitly seems to be some https://joplinapp.org/

I personally prefer vscodium and nvim myself for notes but that isnt a one for one comparison to obsidian (in either direction) imho

[–] Narwhalrus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have any recommendations?

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Since it's a topic that comes back often on /c/selfhosted@lemmy.world I didn't want to open new floodgates, but I can only warmly recommend https://triliumnotes.org/ :-)