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HP realizes that mandatory 15-minute support call wait times isn’t good support (arstechnica.com)
submitted 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) by criss_cross@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
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EDIT: This happened back in 2025. Will leave as I’m sure I’m not the only one that didn’t know, but I saw it on hacker news and didn’t realize it was a year old. My bad.

In an odd approach to trying to improve customer tech support, HP allegedly implemented mandatory, 15-minute wait times for people calling the vendor for help with their computers and printers in certain geographies.

Callers from the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Ireland, and Italy were met with the forced holding periods, The Register reported on Thursday. The publication cited internal communications it saw from February 18 that reportedly said the wait times aimed to “influence customers to increase their adoption of digital self-solve, as a faster way to address their support question. This involves inserting a message of high call volumes, to expect a delay in connecting to an agent and offering digital self-solve solutions as an alternative.”

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[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

How could you tell that people were not reading the knowledge base? They probably didn't need to call if they did, so maybe you reduced the volume by 50%. I get what you are trying to say, but if they make me wait 15 minutes just because, I'm going to be pissed once I reach someone. Then the person who doesn't deserve my bad temper will feel it and I will never buy hardware from you again.

And I'm saying that despite having worked at customer support for years, writing knowledge-base entries and developing the system we used to store it.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Thankfully we didn’t take phone calls. And I knew they weren’t reading the KB because we’d reply with a link to the KB and they’d be happy.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but I mean how do you know people didn't read it.

But getting people to actually read the docs was impossible. And maybe if we made them wait they’d get frustrated

You probably didn't see the ones reading into it, just the ones that didn't.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

The only time the KB really saved was being able to send them a link to the docs that they should have been able to find instead of retyping the response.

All of the answers were right there and they didn’t see it. And no matter how many articles we added the volume of tickets resolved on the first reply with a KB article didn’t go down. (I know because I tracked this as a KPI for a while until it became obvious it wasn’t budging.)

My only conclusion from this is that there is a segment of people who will always ask someone for help rather than take initiative.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What he is saying is, while a lot of the phone calls you got were answered with the KB, this doesn't reflect the people who didn't call because they used the KB. For that, you would need to track total sales, new customer intake, volume over time, etc. It's quite possible you could have customers who got a KB reply from your support staff in a timely manner and decided if it was that easy for you to get an answer to them, it would be worth it for them to try it before calling next time.

Of course, the reality is quite likely that the main users of the knowledge base you built was the support team, which still isn't a loss.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago

Thanks 💖

I was too tired to come back yesterday.