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[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely not, without colonialism and given enough time Indigenous peoples will always industrialise to the greatest extent possible given the circumstances.

Industrialisation is in direct opposition to this idealised ‘harmonious’ living with the land.

You’re falling afoul of the noble savage fallacy in assuming that these people would not have changed their culture over time, given enough time, and have industrialised themselves.

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You really like to misunderstand the point , dont you? Like of course ideology and culture can change, that was my whole point...

Just because I support the statement "Indigenous people have shown that is possible to live in balance with nature", I dont think this is / was true for every group of indigenous people and that it would stay always like that. Its litetally just a statement that show cases an example of a way of living that humans can have a different role in nature, one that actually strives to keep the balance on earth.

And me believeing that has nothing to do with the idea of the noble savage, its just an assesment of a way of living that can be studied and maybe even emulated.

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

You can rephrase it as many times as you want, I understood what you said and I’ve already replied to it.